Wrestle Mania 23

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I dislike Chris Masters. The guy can't even move while in the ring.

As of WM23...I hope HBK defeats John Cena. It's not the end of the world if Cena loses...and it's about time he ****ing loses. He can't perform at all. All he does is take an uncanny beating of epic proportions and just come back with 2 moves and a F U or STFU for the win. Very boring to say the least. Cena has become the Wolverine of the WWE. Beating people he shouldn't.

Taker & Batista...Taker should and must win. All hell will break loose if Batsita manages to end Taker's streak. Besides Batista doesn't need that feat. He's already got a nice resume and is popular enough with the fans.

Well said, pretty much how I feel, although I don't mind Chris Masters

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You do realise that a number of people could have broken it, they just let Lashley do so because it's to hype him for the Battle of the Billionaires, right?

Lashley has so much promise, he was so destructive, but now they've made him stop using The Dominator and make him use a running powerslam, which is called The Dominator.

Cena isn't doing anything Austin didn't do, but better. That's the problem with building him up on a hip hop gimmick, sooner or later he had to "grow up". They had no ideas, so they just made him a generic wrestler, like so many in WWE now. That's why it's boring. Everybody has a real name, nobody has a gimmick.

Also, why they keep hyping Umaga as some undefeatable nutcase is beyond me. J.R saying; "The Samoan Spike is a move nobody can get up from!". It's a regular move that about a million people have used.

-AC

Dude, Im not dumb. Im just posting what happened on RAW, I didn't say nothing about nobody else could have broken it because Cena could have broken it, Taker, HHH, Big show, etc. Masters isnt nearly the strongest of the bunch.

Could he have put it on he Big Show? He couldn't get it on The Great Kahli, I doubt he could have put it on. But the rest would certainly be able to break it

Masters sucks, he barely ever wrestles just does the pussy lock.

Originally posted by General G
Could he have put it on he Big Show? He couldn't get it on The Great Kahli, I doubt he could have put it on. But the rest would certainly be able to break it

Yeah, he's tried to put it on the Big Show but couldnt get it around. He could barely get it around Cena, Bobby lashely, etc.

Originally posted by G U I T A R
Dude, Im not dumb. Im just posting what happened on RAW, I didn't say nothing about nobody else could have broken it because Cena could have broken it, Taker, HHH, Big show, etc. Masters isnt nearly the strongest of the bunch.

Lashley should have broken it like 2 mins before he did break it. Masters hands weren't even gripped together.

Originally posted by G U I T A R
Yeah, he's tried to put it on the Big Show but couldnt get it around. He could barely get it around Cena, Bobby lashely, etc.

I don't remember the Big Show one 😑

Neither do I.

Yeah, I remember the Big Show me and my friends still laugh about how dumb of a move that was for chris masters.

lol.

I'd like to see Masters put it on Brock Lesnar...that dude was a powerhouse. As far as Undertaker goes...I think he wins at Mania. The funny thing is...Taker has already beaten three former members of Evolution at WrestelMania....HHH at WM 17...Flair at 18...and Orton at 21...he just needs Batista to complete the sweep..lol

I don't know who is gonna win between Umaga and Lashley....I do think both of em are gettin' stunned after the match...just like Goldberg and Lesnar did at WM 20

Bobby Lashley is so annoying, he need s to stop winning, i hope umaga wins

John Cena a nd shawn michaels are also so annoying, the always get beaten up, then do 2 good moves , then the finisher, then they win, the end, it is so annoying the exaxt same thing going on every sing week

and undertake goes 15-0
and michaels win
i hope umaga, but probably lashley win,
and orton win money in bamnk

You and I agree on nothing, I hate Umaga, love Lashley, Cena's the best, HBK, ifish, but Taker is going to win.

They'll probably give Batista a win in hopes that he'll look good for doing it, but he won't, he'll still be shit.

Undertaker will have lost a 14 year streak.

-AC

Undertaker will win...there is no doubt about that.

Lashley will win (as much as I hate him) will win, on WWE, Vince has a way of explaining why he went bald...but Trump will have no way because the people who watch "The Apprentice" will have no idea why he is suddenly bald...WWE fans will all know exactly why Vince lost his hair and get laughs out of it.

Michales better win because I hate Cena, for reasons stated earlier.

Hmm..never participated in this thread.

Putting Lashley against Masters was a stupid move. Not so much because of the size differential, but because it's totally unnecessary. Lashley is over because he's talented. He can wrestle. He's huge. You don't need an on again-off again midcarder putting him over. I think he'll knock off Umaga, whom I have a great dislike for. He goes from some stupid superhero faction with Rosey to being nothing more than Vince's version of Samoa Joe, only Umaga has nothing but squash matches and hardly ever "wrestles". Just wag his tongue..make noises and throw his weight around every night. Besides, in all those "Billionaire" interviews, everyone calls for Donald Trump to get his head shaved because they don't know who Vince McMahon is, nor care probably.

Cena is stale, he needs to drop the belt, but not to Shawn Michaels.

Batista deserves nothing, IMO. He's in the WWE because of Triple H. Outside of that, he's slow, has no "wrestling" skills, is a terrible person IRL, and has nothing but his physique going for him. To end the Undertaker's streak with such an uncredible "talent" would be a real shitty way to send Taker out.

..and once Lashey knocks off Umaga, get him out of ECW. Please. It's like a real life "Billy Madison". Making someone prove themselves in lower ranks when they're clearly better than all of them, plus the majority of the RAW/SD talent as it is.

Originally posted by The Core
Hmm..never participated in this thread.

Putting Lashley against Masters was a stupid move. Not so much because of the size differential, but because it's totally unnecessary. Lashley is over because he's talented. He can wrestle. He's huge. You don't need an on again-off again midcarder putting him over. I think he'll knock off Umaga, whom I have a great dislike for. He goes from some stupid superhero faction with Rosey to being nothing more than Vince's version of Samoa Joe, only Umaga has nothing but squash matches and hardly ever "wrestles". Just wag his tongue..make noises and throw his weight around every night. Besides, in all those "Billionaire" interviews, everyone calls for Donald Trump to get his head shaved because they don't know who Vince McMahon is, nor care probably.

Cena is stale, he needs to drop the belt, but not to Shawn Michaels.

Batista deserves nothing, IMO. He's in the WWE because of Triple H. Outside of that, he's slow, has no "wrestling" skills, is a terrible person IRL, and has nothing but his physique going for him. To end the Undertaker's streak with such an uncredible "talent" would be a real shitty way to send Taker out.

..and once Lashey knocks off Umaga, get him out of ECW. Please. It's like a real life "Billy Madison". Making someone prove themselves in lower ranks when they're clearly better than all of them, plus the majority of the RAW/SD talent as it is.

Wow! I agree 100%!

Originally posted by The Core
Hmm..never participated in this thread.

Putting Lashley against Masters was a stupid move. Not so much because of the size differential, but because it's totally unnecessary. Lashley is over because he's talented. He can wrestle. He's huge. You don't need an on again-off again midcarder putting him over. I think he'll knock off Umaga, whom I have a great dislike for. He goes from some stupid superhero faction with Rosey to being nothing more than Vince's version of Samoa Joe, only Umaga has nothing but squash matches and hardly ever "wrestles". Just wag his tongue..make noises and throw his weight around every night. Besides, in all those "Billionaire" interviews, everyone calls for Donald Trump to get his head shaved because they don't know who Vince McMahon is, nor care probably.

Cena is stale, he needs to drop the belt, but not to Shawn Michaels.

Batista deserves nothing, IMO. He's in the WWE because of Triple H. Outside of that, he's slow, has no "wrestling" skills, is a terrible person IRL, and has nothing but his physique going for him. To end the Undertaker's streak with such an uncredible "talent" would be a real shitty way to send Taker out.

..and once Lashey knocks off Umaga, get him out of ECW. Please. It's like a real life "Billy Madison". Making someone prove themselves in lower ranks when they're clearly better than all of them, plus the majority of the RAW/SD talent as it is.

It's a well known fact that Vince likes big guys. It doesn't matter if they're good or not, he just likes big guys. Nathan Jones was brought in with all the fanfare, and despite being an inhumanly sized being (Proportionately.), was awful and Batista is Brock Lesnar without being anywhere close to believable or good. Bobby Lashley not only lacks stamina, but look at his move list, he's already stopped using The Dominator now, they've gave him a crappy running powerslam.

Brock came in, started destroying people with vicious moves, or ordinary moves that looked killer, and got over. That said, he did botch a lot. Goldberg is a brilliant example of how it was done well. WCW was packed so full of employees that he had plenty of shit wrestlers to rack up wins against, but it didn't make his streak seem lame. He had brilliant moves too, as did Scott Steiner, who was great in WCW, now he's some idiot. Chris Masters, another man who could benefit from moves that made you believe his muscles were for anything but show, yet they give him a full nelson. What happened to Sid, Mike Awesome (Ok he's dead, but you get the point) and other people who used to make people cringe by doing powerbombs?

Even Kevin Nash had potential that wasn't really used (Despite being WWF champ for 2 years), though he didn't help himself. I think he just didn't have many he liked working with. Him and Shawn had great matches, but they more or less ruled the booking roost back then.

Bobby Lashley is the first promising "big guy" in ages, but he'll come to nothing. It's a shame. Just another waste, like RVD, Booker T and Kane before him, and CM Punk to follow, or worst of all, Nova (Simon Dean the fitness guy, to all you who are new.).

-AC

Originally posted by The Core
Hmm..never participated in this thread.

Putting Lashley against Masters was a stupid move. Not so much because of the size differential, but because it's totally unnecessary. Lashley is over because he's talented. He can wrestle. He's huge. You don't need an on again-off again midcarder putting him over. I think he'll knock off Umaga, whom I have a great dislike for. He goes from some stupid superhero faction with Rosey to being nothing more than Vince's version of Samoa Joe, only Umaga has nothing but squash matches and hardly ever "wrestles". Just wag his tongue..make noises and throw his weight around every night. Besides, in all those "Billionaire" interviews, everyone calls for Donald Trump to get his head shaved because they don't know who Vince McMahon is, nor care probably.

Cena is stale, he needs to drop the belt, but not to Shawn Michaels.

Batista deserves nothing, IMO. He's in the WWE because of Triple H. Outside of that, he's slow, has no "wrestling" skills, is a terrible person IRL, and has nothing but his physique going for him. To end the Undertaker's streak with such an uncredible "talent" would be a real shitty way to send Taker out.

..and once Lashey knocks off Umaga, get him out of ECW. Please. It's like a real life "Billy Madison". Making someone prove themselves in lower ranks when they're clearly better than all of them, plus the majority of the RAW/SD talent as it is.

Agree on everything, but Cena, I don't want him to lose it, otherwise, yeah I see where you're coming from.

Originally posted by The Core
Hmm..never participated in this thread.

Putting Lashley against Masters was a stupid move. Not so much because of the size differential, but because it's totally unnecessary. Lashley is over because he's talented. He can wrestle. He's huge. You don't need an on again-off again midcarder putting him over. I think he'll knock off Umaga, whom I have a great dislike for. He goes from some stupid superhero faction with Rosey to being nothing more than Vince's version of Samoa Joe, only Umaga has nothing but squash matches and hardly ever "wrestles". Just wag his tongue..make noises and throw his weight around every night. Besides, in all those "Billionaire" interviews, everyone calls for Donald Trump to get his head shaved because they don't know who Vince McMahon is, nor care probably.

Cena is stale, he needs to drop the belt, but not to Shawn Michaels.

Batista deserves nothing, IMO. He's in the WWE because of Triple H. Outside of that, he's slow, has no "wrestling" skills, is a terrible person IRL, and has nothing but his physique going for him. To end the Undertaker's streak with such an uncredible "talent" would be a real shitty way to send Taker out.

..and once Lashey knocks off Umaga, get him out of ECW. Please. It's like a real life "Billy Madison". Making someone prove themselves in lower ranks when they're clearly better than all of them, plus the majority of the RAW/SD talent as it is.

Nicely put, But I do think Cena is ganna win, Micheals is not the right person to hand the belt to...Now I could see if Cena wins and Orton wins and cash's in and wins the title..now that would be intresting.