Originally posted by roughrider
People need to look carefully at each outfit, and determine if this looks right in the real world, not just on the page.
That 'Ultimate' look for Diana some years ago - I have favoured that as more realistic, while still staying with tradition of the comics.
You see that doesn't look any less like a strippers outfit than the original to me.
Originally posted by roughrider
Yeah, but NOW she looks ready to stand with the Spartans against the Persians at Thermopylae, rather than appear at a beauty contest. 👆
Her costume though was created due to the role she played in WW2 with Steve Trevor, I hope they keep that element. Rather than the more modern ideas and she has been to mans world before. I hope it straddles the line between old and new and the Betty Page elements are kept.
Originally posted by NoFate007
A great deal depends on when they set the film. If they set it back during WWII times, the costume is slightly more forgivable. But if they set it in 2007/2008, there's no way that thing is gonna make it through the film where people aren't just laughing at her in it.
I have to say I disagree no one laughed at Supes costume which is equally silly. It's comics the kitsch factor is fine!
What I don't understand is how they think that they're still gonna get some monster hold on the female audience for action films.
Who says they need to get the female audience primarily?? You very well know that most men if not all will go out and watch her. Even if you're sexist you're still going to go watch someone because either A) you'll want to see someone looking sexy, or B) you realize that it could actually be a good film b/c it's a good character.
However, let's face it folks, this isn't the same time period as when she was created. People won't be able to stomach "macho woman who wears the American flag for panties and flies an invisible jet" as anything but laughable.
And yet people can stomach a man dressing up as a Bat & Spider, that drives a black tank & shoots webs from his hands.
You cast some really hot woman to put on the costume...generally someone who can't act, which, since its a character-driven story...totally ruins the film and results in it getting panned by critics
Kate Beckinsale IMO is a good actress & had a good run @ Underworld I&II. Erica Durance to me is also pretty decent actress. Either IMO could play Diana.
In my opinion, there's going to be more riding on the Director/Producer's part than on the actors. If they act like shit, a good director will tell them to do it until they get it right. They should have a firm idea of what needs to happen.
Example - Prior to seeing Superman Returns, a major complaint I had was their choice for Clark. All in all, he wasn't a bad Superman, the real problem is that Brian Singer needs to be shot for going with that story line. The same thing applies here.
They should worry about making GOOD films and not just hashing out whatever stories they want to try to cram down the public's throat.
Based on the comics I've read and seen her in, her abilities and powers, backstory, personality - it could be an excellent movie.
Under the proper direction and without being influenced by producers and such, it COULD be a good film, but look at how these things end up turning out. Studios generally don't care about good films over money-making films. Their first priority is $ even though they constantly use cover-up phrases to try to act like they just care about the film itself rather than what they can rake in.
You've generalized what I said about hot actresses not being able to act. I consider Beckinsale perhaps the most attractive celebrity out now, and I agree with you that she can act. Tons of them can. But if you look on these forums and stuff, people always try to cast just based on whether or not a woman is hot. (ex people thinking that every model that looks like Wonder Woman should be offered the part). Beautiful women, but you can't just go for hotness to drive males to the theatre.
As far as what people can stomach, c'mon...do you honestly think that "invisible jet" is on par with "tank"? Or "man that dresses up in an outfit made out of body armor, combat boots, and gauntlets" is equally laughable in regards to "woman who dresses up in a revealing garment made out of an american flag and a cleavage W"? Spider-Man's outfit is a little laughable, agreed, but Wonder Woman's is like something you'd see at a Victoria's Secret fashion show.
She's a classic character, I'm not arguing that point. I'm glad she's been around and hasn't just been killed off or depowered or anything. But a film about her definitely has a lot of obstacles that it will have to get over in order to be taken as a serious, genuinely good film that will attract a mass audience - far more obstacles than other superheroes we've seen recently.
Studios generally don't care about good films over money-making films. Their first priority is $ even though they constantly use cover-up phrases to try to act like they just care about the film itself rather than what they can rake in.
But if you look on these forums and stuff, people always try to cast just based on whether or not a woman is hot.
Definitely True - people are idiots
As far as what people can stomach, c'mon...do you honestly think that "invisible jet" is on par with "tank"?
Even if it was an awesome jet that was made out of adamantium and could go through walls etc, etc., they should just leave the jet out completely. I've always wondered - why the hell does she have that thing if she can fly, and at the speeds she can. It's ridiculous.
Spider-Man's outfit is a little laughable, agreed, but Wonder Woman's is like something you'd see at a Victoria's Secret fashion show.
And what could be better than seeing either Adriana Lima or Alessandra Ambrosio wearing something like that?? Ajoke - but regardless if they keep it the same exact outfit or not, they have to make it sexy. That's part of the whole "Diana: Goddess looking but will kick my A$$". From what I remember, Elektra's outfit wasn't bad, it was just the movie itself. Eventhough it is a different type of costume.
She's a classic character, I'm not arguing that point. I'm glad she's been around and hasn't just been killed off or depowered or anything. But a film about her definitely has a lot of obstacles that it will have to get over in order to be taken as a serious, genuinely good film that will attract a mass audience - far more obstacles than other superheroes we've seen recently.
Definitely true - it will have many obstacles. But if they do it right it will be worth all the trouble.
I agree about the jet. What was the point in giving her that if she can already fly?
Do you remember seeing that Supercar or whatever it was called, where Superman had that flying car with tentacles or whatever? Whatever they were smoking back in the day must've been potent lol
"I've got an idea! How about we give that guy that flies....A FLYING CAR."
"Oh that'll totally make him tougher."