Captain America (No Shield) versus Batman (No Belt)

Who wins?

Probably the same as the Slade fight from Deathstroke 7. Batman would probably lose because he's not enhanced.

Equal Bodies, Batman would take majority.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Who wins?

So its H2H?

Cap's training isn't at Batman's level and fighting ability counts for more than strength and speed when you are at their level.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Probably the same as the Slade fight from Deathstroke 7. Batman would probably lose because he's not enhanced.

Equal Bodies, Batman would take majority.

I agree that physically Cap might be slightly superior to Batman, but you have to consider the fact that Bruce is extremely knowledgeable in many different forms of martial arts and also his knowledge of deadly pressure points may give him a great advantage.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So its H2H?

Cap's training isn't at Batman's level and fighting ability counts for more than strength and speed when you are at their level.

I half agree. We don't know anything about Cap's training, because it's never been mentioned. Here's what we do know -

He's one of the best on Marvel Earth, as stated by Nick Fury, I believe.

According to Zemo, he's one of the greatest fighters of all time.

According to himself, he's mastered every form of combat on Earth, which he stated when he fought Zemo.

He's learned a complex martial art in a day's time.

He learned interstallar martial arts during his time in the future whilst fighting Korvac.

They don't go into specifics like they do with Batman.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I agree that physically Cap might be slightly superior to Batman, but you have to consider the fact that Bruce is extremely knowledgeable in many different forms of martial arts and also his knowledge of deadly pressure points may give him a great advantage.

Cap also knows pressure point combat, and utilizes it against his opponents. Before Batman utilized them on Solomon Grundy, Cap used them on Hulk and was able to hold his own, and even throw the big lug like he was a fly.

Like I mentioned before, it would probably be like the fight from Deathstroke 7. Want me to post it?

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Cap also knows pressure point combat, and utilizes it against his opponents. Before Batman utilized them on Solomon Grundy, Cap used them on Hulk and was able to hold his own, and even throw the big lug like he was a fly.

Well, remember, in this fight Captain America doesn't have his shield. I think he's more used to fighting with a shield than Batman is with his utility belt.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Well, remember, in this fight Captain America doesn't have his shield. I think he's more used to fighting with a shield than Batman is with his utility belt.

Cap's fighting style isn't reliant on his shield like most think. It's used mostly as a projectile and for defense, and it's not like he hasn't done anything without it either.

The shield helps close the gap between him and a superpowered opponent. Batman doesn't have superpowers.

I'm going with Cap in the fight with no gear.

capt due to his endurence and overall edge in other area's

Here's essentially how I see it going. Just substitute Slade for Cap.

I'm unclear, I think if this is purely a brawl, then Cap wins after a hard fought battle.

But if Batman lands a pressure hit (ie on Cap's solar plexus) than Batman will win.

Hmm . . .

I seem to have underestimated Cap's skill level. Its close but he'll take a majority.

Originally posted by masterbruce

But if Batman lands a pressure hit (ie on Cap's solar plexus) than Batman will win.

The opposite is true as well of course . . .

Originally posted by masterbruce
I'm unclear, I think if this is purely a brawl, then Cap wins after a hard fought battle.

But if Batman lands a pressure hit (ie on Cap's solar plexus) than Batman will win.

I'm guessing you're thinking of the Leopard blow?

Even landing that wouldn't do much. Cap's been hit with similar, and due to his physiology he can still keep going, though he'd be in a LOT of pain.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The opposite is true as well of course . . .

except that pressure points is more Batman's forte than it is Cap's

Originally posted by masterbruce
except that pressure points is more Batman's forte than it is Cap's

Not really. Cap utilizes them a lot. Thats why his shield shots do so much damage to superpowered opponents. You'd have to know pressure points to pull off the things he does. That's why USAgent only uses his shield as a battering ram, whereas Cap is more precise.

Hasn't this been done before? 😕

Anywhoo...I still go with Batman. Capt is too juiced and takes foreigns susbstances to enhance his body.

Cheaters never win in my book.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Hasn't this been done before? 😕

Anywhoo...I still go with Batman. Capt is too juiced and takes foreigns susbstances to enhance his body.

Cheaters never win in my book.

If they don't notice in the NFL and NBA...

Anyways i go with cap. He's the kind of fighter that takes on dozens of Hydra... goes up against spiderman... cuts the rug with iron man... has taken down the hyde..

spiderman's even said that caps got one of the hardest punches he's ever taken...

all that said? its a 50/50 draw.
caps more power (though he does have finesse) but bats is more skill...

cap could be said to know less overall martial arts, but what he knows is applicable in real life combat. and he utilizes it well. Not all martial arts (ie. Taekwondo.) were made for actual combat.

ps2 vs xbox. lesser tech vs greater tech. Who won that war? the lesser. Why? greater application of what it could do.

Current video games... eh whatever.. but thats the jist of my point.

Hmmm this would probly be real close

Id say Cap 6/10