Originally posted by Utrigita
just say it again just to be ignorant and a pain in the ass,
"ignorant?"
You got balls my boy when you haven't even read the relevent issue yet your trying to debate them.
"pain in the ass?"
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Originally posted by Utrigita
In my openion LT hasn't even tried doing anything and at this point he is still observing.
"In your opinion" no doubt.
In Marvel's opinion,
pre-Beyonder > LT
pre-Molecule Man > LT
Originally posted by Utrigita
Where in marvels openion does you find that they states LT being below the two other. And a quick question (I believe we have debated it) why didn't LT intervend, NOt because he wasn't powerful enough he wasn't against HOTU and still be tried to why? Had they broken any rules
Death is ERASED across The Entire Multiverse
This would cause a Multiversal Imbalance.
In fact, LT's purpose is geared primarily (nowadays) towards a Mystical Unbalance of power within a Multiverse, Beyonder was that from the very start.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Well, LT does only intervene in matters that threaten the multiverse, right? The multiverse was destroyed by the Beyonder. So, take your guess on why exactly he chose this one moment not to interfere in a multiversal affair.Him being scared shitless makes sense.
So, Living Tribunal is afraid of the Beyonder. Lets talk now. Beyonder is dead. Living Tribunal is now. Do u see anyone who maintains the multiverse? Do u see anyone who has the power Living Tribunal has? Lets respect the most powerful creation of The One Above All.
So, Living Tribunal is afraid of the Beyonder. Lets talk now. Beyonder is dead. Living Tribunal is now. Do u see anyone who maintains the multiverse? Do u see anyone who has the power Living Tribunal has? Lets respect the most powerful creation of The One Above All.
Well, nowadays, of course LT is the topdog. But back during Secret Wars, Beyonder was. I more than respect the Judge of All Realities but he was simply no match for a being like PR Beyonder.
The fact is, PR Beyonder did multiple things that threatened to send the multiverse out of whack and LT never showed up.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Well, nowadays, of course LT is the topdog. But back during Secret Wars, Beyonder was. I more than respect the Judge of All Realities but he was simply no match for a being like PR Beyonder.The fact is, PR Beyonder did multiple things that threatened to send the multiverse out of whack and LT never showed up.
Good point. 🙂 If the higher ups wanted Beyonder on top, they wouldn't have ret con him. Hence, he's dead. I hear he's back.
Originally posted by Mr Master
LT is all about the BalanceDeath is ERASED across The Entire Multiverse
This would cause a Multiversal Imbalance.
In fact, LT's purpose is geared primarily (nowadays) towards a Mystical Unbalance of power within a Multiverse, Beyonder was that from the very start.
True but LT must also obey the laws of the universe and that is survival of the fittest, beyonder was stronger then death survival of the fittest. And when Beyonder had erased death LT couldn't kill Beyonder anymore then beyonder would kill a fly. And don't forget that it did indeed take some off beyonders own energy to erase multideath and he doubtet that he was capable of bringing her back.
Originally posted by Utrigita
True but LT must also obey the laws of the universe and that is survival of the fittest,
Not if the Balance is threatened.
Your taking into account LT not interfering with Thanos/IG, but Thanos wanted to take Eternity's Position as the Universe (No Imbalance)
Originally posted by Utrigita
beyonder was stronger then death survival of the fittest.
Incorrect.
By Beyonder erasing Death, a Multiversal Imbalance was immediately created.
Beyonder did NOT become Death, there was NO Death (Multiversal Imbalance)
Originally posted by Utrigita
And when Beyonder had erased death LT couldn't kill Beyonder anymore then beyonder would kill a fly.
Actually Beyonder Killed Dave, and through him recreated the New Death:
Alot more than a "fly" wouldn't you say?
Originally posted by Utrigita
And don't forget that it did indeed take some off beyonders own energy to erase multideath
I haven't forgotten, I practically have the entire saga memorized.
Originally posted by Utrigita
and he doubtet that he was capable of bringing her back.
Evidently he was wrong.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not if the Balance is threatened.Your taking into account LT not interfering with Thanos/IG, but Thanos wanted to take Eternity's Position as the Universe (No Imbalance)
haven't we got a bit of topic ???
Incorrect.
By Beyonder erasing Death, a Multiversal Imbalance was immediately created.
Beyonder did NOT become Death, there was NO Death (Multiversal Imbalance)
Actually Beyonder Killed Dave, and through him recreated the New Death:
Alot more than a "fly" wouldn't you say?
I haven't forgotten, I practically have the entire saga memorized.
Evidently he was wrong.
Then on what argument did LT interfer with HOTU, thanos achieved it, And killing death and creating inbalance in the multiverse is very nice but with death gone the order of the universe change.
I could be ignorant and just say omniscience but oh yes i think i will and let you figure the rest out.
Again beyonder was relifed it worked, not just like that it worked. Dave also proved himself willing to sacrifice himself to bring death back he was ready to die, what if he hadn't the situation would have been different.
I can see you have that, as much as we debate it you also should have.
I said he doubtet himself that was all he doubtet his own powers.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Then on what argument did LT interfer with HOTU,
A Mystical Imbalance of Power.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And killing death and creating inbalance in the multiverse is very nice but with death gone the order of the universe change.
In 1985,
No Death = Imbalance
Originally posted by Utrigita
I could be ignorant and just say omniscience but oh yes i think i will and let you figure the rest out.
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Originally posted by Utrigita
Dave also proved himself willing to sacrifice himself to bring death back he was ready to die, what if he hadn't the situation would have been different.
Incorrect...
Dave willing to die or not makes absolutely NO difference.
ALL the power in the Multiverse can't Kill a flower,
ONLY the Beyonder was still able to Kill, hence Dave dies.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Dave being willing to die makes ALL the difference.Beyonder flat out said he could only accomplish it if a living creature was willing to become death.
Beyonder never said "he could only accomplish it if" ...
"if some sentient creature were willing to become Death, in a manner of speaking ... for from the Seed of the First Death, it's spectre would rise again"
Beyonder figured if he can Kill a sentient creature, that creature would take up the role as the concept of Death. (being the FIRST sentience to DIE in the Multiverse again) but Beyonder had to do the Killing!
It took Beyonder more than a thought to Kill Dave,
so the "willing" part was not all there was to it.