Flash vs Silver Surfer h2h

Originally posted by Draco69
With the Claw of Horus and lightspeed IMP, he could possibly knock out SS.

Getting hit with the mass of the earth at lightspeed would be pretty serious. Although if his punch already has infinite mass how would the Claw of Horus increase it?

Originally posted by Deathstroke
Getting hit with the mass of the earth at lightspeed would be pretty serious. Although if his punch already has infinite mass how would the Claw of Horus increase it?

Careful or you might undermine the plausability of Flash's character. 🙄

Originally posted by Kutulu
Careful or you might undermine the plausability of Flash's character. 🙄

Aw... 🙁

Originally posted by Deathstroke
Although if his punch already has infinite mass how would the Claw of Horus increase it?

We know from observation that IMP doesn't really hit with InfiniteMass.

What I've always wondered about with the IMP is, if there's infinite mass, where's the infinite gravity? Why isn't Flash's fist a black hole? Because the speedforce protects him from relativistic effects? Then how does he get to infinite mass in the first place?

Originally posted by Mindship
What I've always wondered about with the IMP is, if there's infinite mass, where's the infinite gravity? Why isn't Flash's fist a black hole? Because the speedforce protects him from relativistic effects? Then how does he get to infinite mass in the first place?

We can say that the SpeedForce negates the black hole effect. The real problem is that a true IMP would have more power behind it than Eternity or by extention Galactus (full power).

Flash's control over kinetic energy far surpasses SS's control.

If Flash can manipulate the kenitic energy of a abstract level being, SS has no chance what so ever to out manipulate him.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
We know from observation that IMP doesn't really hit with InfiniteMass.

Yeah, I know. I was just tryin to blow some people's minds.

Anyway, it'd still be one hell of a shot.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
We can say that the SpeedForce negates the black hole effect.

confused1 ............... disgust

Rather odd, I say, for a speed force.

Originally posted by Mindship
But...but...but that would mean...that would mean the Speedforce can separate mass from gravity! *audibly gasps*

confused1 ............... disgust

Rather odd, I say, for a speedforce.

A-Are you OK Mindship?

The speedforce is a CBLON (ComicBookLawOfNature) it can do whatever it wants. (It also happens to be its own dimension and a replacement for KE in DC)

SS all day.

The Silver Surfer is going to win this all day and any day.

I noticed in the OP, that both combatants are allowed their maximum travel speed in this. The Silver Surfer is one of the few characters whose maximum travel Speed dusts any post CoIE version of the wanky Speedfarce Flash.

Literally the Surfer can fly around the planet (1 foot off the ground )at hundreds of trillions of times the speed of light, probably more and Wally/Bart (whichever Flash is meant here) won't even perceive him move or be able to hit him.

Flash can't use an IMP if he isn't allowed to run thousands of miles and enter the speed force. You've got to remember, to Surfer, Flash appears to be the speed of a normal human, maybe slower.

Their speed cancels each other out, so it's down to strength, skill and durability. Surfer can amp higher than the glove can amp, he's not a great fighter but he's way more durable.

Eh, it could go either way.