Superman vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by batdude123
And Superman has beaten Dominus, and a number of other universal beings before.

You don't even have a point anymore. No matter how you slice it, Superman has feats that prove he is faster, stronger, more durable, has better reflexes, etc...

And of course he's more versatile.

Superman ftw 7/10.

Superman's feat mean the big donut when looking at battles between him and ww and other things written and shown. Superman has shown to be superior to Thor many times, but that doesn't stop the forum from giving thor the win based on other things. like skill. near same lvl of strength. better skills.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hey im just using what was put on paper. dont' fualt me. as far as senses, you don't need reflexes to percieve something. even tho the white martians do have super human reflexes. An olderman about 50 and I can both percieve a car about to run us over. I may have better reflexes, but both of us saw the same car coming. How fast was she moving to be UNDETECTED by white martians? Batman hurting Diana with a pressure strike is nothing. Diana has no durability. ( Isn't that how you down play feats?)

No, see, the funny thing about it is that I'm not using that one stupid instance as a testament to how durable WW is. I was simply giving an example of how you're debating right now. All your points are faulty.

White Martians haven't been able to react to a number of things moving at speeds a lot slower than light. It's hilarious that you are using this as a way to measure Diana's comparable speed.

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Superman.

Wins.

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Majority.

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Originally posted by batdude123
No, see, the funny thing about it is that I'm not using that one stupid instance as a testament to how durable WW is. I was simply giving an example of how you're debating right now. All your points are faulty.

White Martians haven't been able to react to a number of things moving at speeds a lot slower than light. It's hilarious that you are using this as a way to measure Diana's comparable speed.

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No I'm asking how fast do you have to be moving to be able to be UNDETECTED by a white martian. It has nothign to do with thier speed. And It doesn't matter if they haven't been able to react to certain things, Superman has been hit by slower objects and people and so has flash. I was using that batman thing as a joke to show how you can take a feat for a character and totally deflate it as your doing. I just said batman's feat didnt mean shit cuz ww isn't that durable. Same thing as you saying, WW isn't that fast, White martians don't have great reflexes. You get what I"m saying. I was actually using your style to show you what your doing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman's feat mean the big donut when looking at battles between him and ww and other things written and shown. Superman has shown to be superior to Thor many times, but that doesn't stop the forum from giving thor the win based on other things. like skill. near same lvl of strength. better skills.

You're using an instance of Superman being completely out of his mind and fighting like a complete moron to support your case. The fight between him and her in the Sacrifice arc was garbage. Pure and simple.

He's beaten her before without too much trouble in other fights when he wasn't under the influence of mind control.

I'll always give Superman the majority over Thor. Superman's speed advantage trumps Thor's overall versatility advantage.

Originally posted by Draco69
Superman.

Wins.

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Majority.

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nvr clearly is just trying to get attention

Originally posted by batdude123
You're using an instance of Superman being completely out of his mind and fighting like a complete moron to support your case. The fight between him and her in the Sacrifice arc was garbage. Pure and simple.

He's beaten her before without too much trouble in other fights when he wasn't under the influence of mind control.

I'll always give Superman the majority over Thor. Superman's speed advantage trumps Thor's overall versatility advantage.

And do you discount the fact that she was at a sever disatvantage becuz she had to hold back? Or the fact that Her magical weapons even things out. How many times has she actually used them in a battle with Superman? Seems like she would be jobbing if she didn't use them. I like the way you say the fight in the sacrifice was garbage to argue your point. Doesn't matter. it is fact and cannon.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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nvr clearly is just trying to get attention

NO i'm not. I'm arguing my position same as everyone else. Try posting something relevant to the discussion and not your own personal way of " trying to be part of the cool kids crew"

Originally posted by Draco69
Superman.

Wins.

The.

Majority.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And do you discount the fact that she was at a sever disatvantage becuz she had to hold back? Or the fact that Her magical weapons even things out. How many times has she actually used them in a battle with Superman? Seems like she would be jobbing if she didn't use them. I like the way you say the fight in the sacrifice was garbage to argue your point. Doesn't matter. it is fact and cannon.

It's also a fact that Superman was out of his mind and was fighting completely out of character against Diana during that match.

It's also a fact (and canon too) that Batman stunned Diana with a pressure point strike.

See what I just did there?

Originally posted by batdude123
It's also a fact that Superman was out of his mind and was fighting completely out of character against Diana during that match.

It's alos a fact (and canon too) that Batman stunned Diana with a pressure point strike.

See what I just did there?

Actually he did the same thing to Diana that she later on emulated on Superman.

He slammed his fists on her ears. Being blind, her already superhuman hearing was stunted to higher levels.

Rucka did a nice thematic harken to that scene.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No I'm asking how fast do you have to be moving to be able to be UNDETECTED by a white martian. It has nothign to do with thier speed. And It doesn't matter if they haven't been able to react to certain things, Superman has been hit by slower objects and people and so has flash. I was using that batman thing as a joke to show how you can take a feat for a character and totally deflate it as your doing. I just said batman's feat didnt mean shit cuz ww isn't that durable. Same thing as you saying, WW isn't that fast, White martians don't have great reflexes. You get what I"m saying. I was actually using your style to show you what your doing.

I'm simply doing what you're doing. Using one time nonsensical instances of stuff happening in comics.

You're using this as a testament to WW's speed. I'm simply trying to tell you that your logic is completely faulty. It is a completely ambiguous feat and you're taking it WAY out of context.

It's been shown before that Superman is clearly Diana's superior when it comes to speed.

End of discussion.

Superman wins 7/10. I'm serious, get your head out of Diana's ass.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Try posting something relevant to the discussion and not your own personal way of " trying to be part of the cool kids crew"

I've disagreed with people here before as for a relevant comment.

Superman has speed, strength, range, durability, feats, versatility (when Diana is weaponless) and stamina on his side.

Originally posted by Draco69
Actually he did the same thing to Diana that she later on emulated on Superman.

He slammed his fists on her ears. Being blind, her already superhuman hearing was stunted to higher levels.

Rucka did a nice thematic harken to that scene.

Even you have to admit that the Sacrifice fight between the two was written poorly. She was standing right behind him, and he couldn't even detect her. 🤨 The man can hear the tiniest of frequencies from space, but he can't hear her behind him?

Ass writing.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm simply doing what you're doing. Using one time nonsensical instances of stuff happening in comics.

You're using this as a testament to WW's speed. I'm simply trying to tell you that your logic is completely faulty. It is a completely ambiguous feat and you're taking it WAY out of context.

It's been shown before that Superman is clearly Diana's superior when it comes to speed.

End of discussion.

Superman wins 7/10. I'm serious, get your head out of Diana's ass.

I could see if Diana was somehow as slow as the Hulk or her reflexes and reactions times where like spiderman's. But she is one of the best fighters in comics with crazy reflexes and speed. I can't see superman's speed being that big of an atvantange. now when has diana ever fought superman using all of her skill and weapons in any matter that would even things out. I'm talking standard gear.

Originally posted by batdude123
Even you have to admit that the Sacrifice fight between the two was written poorly. She was standing right behind him, and he couldn't even detect her. 🤨 The man can hear the tiniest of frequencies from space, but he can't hear her behind him.

Ass writing.

Not to mention his eyes were kinda pointing to the back of his head....

Maybe Diana learned some mystical kung-fu from I Ching were she can be completely undetectable!

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It WOULD have made MUCH more sense if she used the Lansinarian technology to hide behind him. Superman can't detect it with any of his senses.

But Rucka didn't like it for some reason....

Kal-El goes down to the Amazonian princess.

Originally posted by Draco69
Not to mention his eyes were kinda pointing to the back of his head....

Maybe Diana learned some mystical kung-fu from I Ching were she can be completely undetectable!

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It WOULD have made MUCH more sense if she used the Lansinarian technology to hide behind him. Superman can't detect it with any of his senses.

But Rucka didn't like it for some reason....

Yeah... that would have made A LOT more sense. 😬

are you guys spasticated, if they're both bloodlusted its over for WW. ever read the batman/superman absolute power. when batman gets killed superman wants revenge and blitzes to earth. he even shatters WW's bracelets with a punch and mercilessly kills her. if you think WW stands a chance ur pathetic, i read a lot of shi.t on this forum and WW beating superman is up there with the classics

yea i read that one, man wonder woman didnt last that long at all, not even presenting a challenge to superman