Originally posted by ViolentByDesign
Its not spite either way. You are just dumb and don't realize how powerful tony is.👆
What?
People who are questioning Iron Mans power-set need not look any further than his literal dismantling of Magneto whom in most views is considered a top of the food chain Omega level mutant.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Tony was the head of SHIELD he has prepped to every known hero or villain in the known MARVEL universe. It has been specifically mentioned numerous times. NOVA most definitely would have been one of those.
Originally posted by armedforbattle
He does not prep specifically for EVERY battle. What about fights he doesn't know will happen. He preps for big battles, ones he knows he'll need help with (Thor/Hulk/PhoenixBuster)
If you think that he doesn't know their strengths, weaknesses, tactics, powers, tendencies, temperament... etc. You didn't read any of his titles throughout those runs. And or the SHIELD handbooks by him which goes through those exact things.
Tony knows NOVA better than NOVA knows NOVA. The reverse cannot be said for NOVA's knowledge of Iron Man.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Tony knows NOVA better than NOVA knows NOVA. The reverse cannot be said for NOVA's knowledge of Iron Man.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Prove that Thor was amped.Even if he wasn't, he's still several levels above Tony.
Thor always had to "remotely access" the Odinforce during V3, so it's really hard to say whether or not he's amped.
The OF helped him against Bor, but that's the only incident that comes to mind.
At any rate, like you said he's leagues above Tony and irrelevant to this fight
Technically speaking Thor had a portion of the Odin Force during his fight with Tony.
But at the time I'm not sure whether JMS intended to it be in his possession yet or maybe he simple chose not to use it until later. Whatever the reason, it was made explicitly clear that Thor was beating the shit out of Tony so badly because he cut loose, not due to a power up. Tony even asks if Thor had been working out.
Originally posted by cdtm
Asgardian Destroyer?
Yeah, but it was a bit weird. It had Balder in it and Thor didn't seem to perform any better than he normally does. It's also an example of accessing the OF to deal with the Destroyer.
Saying that he was amped is still reasonable though, but whatever remained of the Odinforce in him must've been a joke, or at the very least a very poorly interpreted version from JMS' side. Thor needed to "use the last of it" to re-force Mjolnir, something that was never an issue in the past. Nor does it make much sense that the Odinforce is a quantifiable amount since it has always been limitless in the past.
The entire Odin Force shit didn't make any sense. Felt like it was shoe-horned in to appease fans questioning what happened to it. Being able to use up the Odin Force makes no sense, it's a nigh limitless source of energy that can be replenished ad infinitum.
When I read the first six or so issues (Before any mention of the Odin Force), I thought it was quite clear he was back without it, just written at a high end level. Even in his fight against Bor.
The only time it felt like he had any real Odin Force was against Bor. And even then, Thor had a ridiculously high end showing where he fights Bor along with other Top Tier (And higher) enemies resurrected by Hela in Avengers Prime.