Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The General has strength greater than Supes, and he can't be killed. You can't even injure him, he won't feel a thing. It'll just heal. And unlike Hulk, his metabolism is limitless, as is his stamina.Like it or not, Hulk eventually will get tired and run out of gas. The General can't lose, it's just a matter of time until he eventually wins.
Hulk will not do better than Supes. And you are insane to say Hulk's strength is greater than Superman's. Hulk is nowhere near a match for Superman. It would be Dr. Banner being punched into Orbit, not the man of steel.
Firstly, i don't even know why i'm responding to someone with Apoc in their sig, but ehh..........
Superman is stronger than Hulk, but as soon as Hulk gets enraged, he jumps up on the level.
And contrary to forum lore, it doesn't take him a long time to get on the level. It just depends on the circumstance, and the stress involved.
And i said why Superman gets the majority over the Hulk.
Insane speed + comparable strength + decent energy output = Hulk koed.
Superman not using his speed, and just going blow for blow, rather than 100 blows in a second, would lose the majority to Hulk imo.
Luckily, he doesn't have to fight that way.
When Superman fought the General, did he use his tactical superspeed? Or did he slug it out, and use the hv/ice breath?
And i didn't say Hulk wins the majority.
I did say however, that his persona and powerset lends him better to this fight.
Angry = strength and durability, for an already premiere brick with a childlike mental stability, makes for a good fight.
Wait, blow for blow? As in, handicapping himself and not using his full powers? Wow, that was fanboyish. You're saying if Superman slowed himself down and just hit Hulk and fought like a brawler, then Hulk would win. Except, The General did just that. And Supes was using his speed advantage. The General manhandled Superman when they fought and Supes wasn't able to even slow him down. My god man, just accept it. Hulk can't win this, he is completely outclassed in this slugfest.
And F u. Classic Apoc could beat Hulk as well.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait, blow for blow? As in, handicapping himself and not using his full powers? Wow, that was fanboyish. You're saying if Superman slowed himself down and just hit Hulk and fought like a brawler, then Hulk would win. Except, The General did just that. And Supes was using his speed advantage. The General manhandled Superman when they fought and Supes wasn't able to even slow him down. My god man, just accept it. Hulk can't win this, he is completely outclassed in this slugfest.And F u. Classic Apoc could beat Hulk as well.
Y do you get offended when someone insults you yet you constantly insult me when I never do anything or say anything about you? I saw what you said about me in the other thread calling me a troll. When I"m not. and I'm glad someone defended me. Even digi said that I was correct in my observation.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait, blow for blow? As in, handicapping himself and not using his full powers? Wow, that was fanboyish. You're saying if Superman slowed himself down and just hit Hulk and fought like a brawler, then Hulk would win. Except, The General did just that. And Supes was using his speed advantage. The General manhandled Superman when they fought and Supes wasn't able to even slow him down. My god man, just accept it. Hulk can't win this, he is completely outclassed in this slugfest.And F u. Classic Apoc could beat Hulk as well.
Onslaught>apoc
onslaught>general
hulk>armored onslaught
hulk>general.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait, blow for blow? As in, handicapping himself and not using his full powers? Wow, that was fanboyish. You're saying if Superman slowed himself down and just hit Hulk and fought like a brawler, then Hulk would win. Except, The General did just that. And Supes was using his speed advantage. The General manhandled Superman when they fought and Supes wasn't able to even slow him down. My god man, just accept it. Hulk can't win this, he is completely outclassed in this slugfest.And F u. Classic Apoc could beat Hulk as well.
And i repeat, why am i bothering to debate someone who has Apoc in his sig?
I already said that Superman beats Hulk using his powers.
But Superman fighting Hulk, the same way he fought DOS DD, would likely lose again.
I didn't see the General vs Superman fight.
I asked you, did he use his speed, pulling speedblitzes out his ass, and heat visioning the earth, the way forum Superman operates.
And i already said that Hulk would lose.
I just said that an opponent this one dimensional lends itself to Hulks kind of matches.
And about the Apoc thing, too bad his best rendition happened on a television show from the early 90's, and he hasn't matched that guy yet.
The General is very powerful. During the JLA World W orld III arc he faced off against Superman, Martian Manhunter and Orion. When entering the battle, Along with Steel, superman after being told by the huntress of the difficulty that respectable forces of power(some heroes) were having in trying to subdue the General, was asked by Steel what was their strategy, when facing the General, Supes replied, to Steel's surprised, "Full Power". Supes explained that the general was Self-regenerating, superstrong, super-tough, unstoppable.
Superman fought the general alone after he and steel's initial charge-attack was unsuccessful. he knocked the general through buildings, stone surfaces, smashed him into the ground, heat-visioned of arms of the General, burned open the general's chest and mid-section with the power of his awesome heat-vision. Supes did all of this continously, at high-powered speeds. It was enough to kill almost anyone, except the General didn't fall, he didn't die, although he seemed to be battle weary, eye-woggled from the constant onslaught from the man-of-steel.
High-powered -earth shaking, heat-vaporing attacks, so much so that supes was told telepathicly by manhunter to discontinue his attacts and to rest. You see, Superman and The martian Manhunter Knew the extent of the general's power, they knew that only the most powerful attacks could force his body to take note of the resistance it faced. Superman was able to make the general's body recognize his awesome might, that he is indeed a being of extreme power. However, the general did prove to be just what superman said he was, unstoppable, his body replenished itself even after that super attack by superman and was doing so all along during the battle against superman, that why he did not die.
Superman, while still able to go a on for quite a while was starting to feel winded, but hey, as I said, almost anyone would have died from such a conbination as super slams through the ground, mighty high flying punches, vaporisng heat vision, and more at high speed. Supes was able to do something that next to no one can to to the general, force his body to feel what his opponent was dishing out, giving him a taste of "Full Power".
Originally posted by Glimmerone
The General is very powerful. During the JLA World W orld III arc he faced off against Superman, Martian Manhunter and Orion. When entering the battle, Along with Steel, superman after being told by the huntress of the difficulty that respectable forces of power(some heroes) were having in trying to subdue the General, was asked by Steel what was their strategy, when facing the General, Supes replied, to Steel's surprised, "Full Power". Supes explained that the general was Self-regenerating, superstrong, super-tough, unstoppable.Superman fought the general alone after he and steel's initial charge-attack was unsuccessful. he knocked the general through buildings, stone surfaces, smashed him into the ground, heat-visioned of arms of the General, burned open the general's chest and mid-section with the power of his awesome heat-vision. Supes did all of this continously, at high-powered speeds. It was enough to kill almost anyone, except the General didn't fall, he didn't die, although he seemed to be battle weary, eye-woggled from the constant onslaught from the man-of-steel.
High-powered -earth shaking, heat-vaporing attacks, so much so that supes was told telepathicly by manhunter to discontinue his attacts and to rest. You see, Superman and The martian Manhunter Knew the extent of the general's power, they knew that only the most powerful attacks could force his body to take note of the resistance it faced. Superman was able to make the general's body recognize his awesome might, that he is indeed a being of extreme power. However, the general did prove to be just what superman said he was, unstoppable, his body replenished itself even after that super attack by superman and was doing so all along during the battle against superman, that why he did not die.
Superman, while still able to go a on for quite a while was starting to feel winded, but hey, as I said, almost anyone would have died from such a conbination as super slams through the ground, mighty high flying punches, vaporisng heat vision, and more at high speed. Supes was able to do something that next to no one can to to the general, force his body to feel what his opponent was dishing out, giving him a taste of "Full Power".
About time we got a sensible poster in here. But yes, that is exactly what Hulk will be facing. But I should point out that the general has unlimited stamina and his body does not fatigue. Again, it is a credit to Superman that he even was able to slow the general down. The amount of damage that Superman did to the general would have certainly killed the Hulk or at least greatly injured him. It only slowed the general down for a little while. The General might have killed Superman if the JLA hadn't helped him. Thus, Hulk can't possibly win this. To do so is to say not only is Hulk more powerful than Superman, but that he is stronger than the combined JLA and capable of doing what no one on earth could: destroy the indestructible shaggy man.
God damn it, am I one of the only ones who gets it? The General CAN'T LOSE. Hulk can't kill him and eventually even Hulk will run out of gas. The General won't. and to my mind, beating the JLA and Superman, is a high enough feat to put the general at Hulk's level. And Hulk certainly isn't the strongest and his strength isn't infinite. I could name several characters who manhandle Hulk in sheer power.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestwemdigo cant be killed but that doesn't stop him from getting knock the **** out.
God damn it, am I one of the only ones who gets it? The General CAN'T LOSE. Hulk can't kill him and eventually even Hulk will run out of gas. The General won't. and to my mind, beating the JLA and Superman, is a high enough feat to put the general at Hulk's level. And Hulk certainly isn't the strongest and his strength isn't infinite. I could name several characters who manhandle Hulk in sheer power.
Please just shut up while you still have credibility. YOU CAN'T KNOCK THE GENERAL OUT. YOU CAN'T EVEN INJURE HIM WITH MOST ATTACKS. And A Wendigo can be killed. The curse is unstoppable, but a specific Wendigo can be killed, just pull out the heart. The General doesn't feel pain, he doesn't get tired, he smacks down Supes and the whole JLA, and he has an unlimited ability to regenerate his body. Not to mention he's smarter than most of the Hulks, with the possible exception of Prof. Hulk. But The general is also a trained fighter and military man, so he may have the skill advantage.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
God damn it, am I one of the only ones who gets it? The General CAN'T LOSE. Hulk can't kill him and eventually even Hulk will run out of gas. The General won't. and to my mind, beating the JLA and Superman, is a high enough feat to put the general at Hulk's level. And Hulk certainly isn't the strongest and his strength isn't infinite. I could name several characters who manhandle Hulk in sheer power.
The hulk can't be killed, deal with it and start reading his comics.
Hulk wins this. The Hulk takes the majotiry here.