all heralds vs true form DS

Originally posted by UniOmni
The comic were Superman deflected the OE, made no mention of the Sources protection.

Superman was simply powerful enough to deflect the OE there. I don't like it, but it happened.

And the New Gods are only smaller when they're boomtubed into the main DCU.

Their true forms don't destroy reality simply by being. Thats a lie.

Wrong, their mass does destroy existence, which is why they use boom tubes, Nvr in the pasts has posted befre the exact issues which explain this as well.

It actually sounds like you speak of Trial of Superman, where its a strokefest for the alien.

But still, its never specifically mentioned that it was his nexus being status that protected him from the OE.

Nevermind the fact, that he flatout repelled the OE. Sent it back at him, and then beat the shit outta him.

Surfer could pull a similar move.

The stuff said in this thread about Darkseid between you and Nvr makes comics cry.

Originally posted by UniOmni
The comic were Superman deflected the OE, made no mention of the Sources protection.

Superman was simply powerful enough to deflect the OE there. I don't like it, but it happened.

Originally posted by UniOmni
The comic were Superman deflected the OE, made no mention of the Sources protection.

Superman was simply powerful enough to deflect the OE there. I don't like it, but it happened.

And the New Gods are only smaller when they're boomtubed into the main DCU.

Their true forms don't destroy reality simply by being. Thats a lie.

Actually thier true forms do destroy reality. Orion explained it to superman when he showed superman that His reality was like marbles to the new gods. This is the arc where Superman was on New Genesis and they were about to fight S'ivaa the Destroyer. Can't member which new god's series it was. So many different ones. I posted the issues a while back.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Also when SS absorbed some of Dominas' power he was powerful enough to stand up to Galctus after he had eaten Asgard, and the Shiar empire.

Dominas also beat King Thor.

If so, that particular arch was non-canon, and thus cannot be used as substantial evidence.

Originally posted by Galan007
Is this in reference to "Last Planet Standing"?

If so, that particular arch was non-canon, and thus cannot be used as substantial evidence.

Aren't several of these characters from non-canon arcs?

Somewhere earlier people mentioned Dominas and so I was using him (no one said this was just true herald from 616). Was Dominas ever in a canon arc? I think he was only in MC2. Your point is valid, but since I thought the battle was including him these are th feats I have to work with.

Originally posted by Galan007
Is this in reference to "Last Planet Standing"?

If so, that particular arch was non-canon, and thus cannot be used as substantial evidence.

The author of this thread was basing his thoughts on the picture of Galactus heralds minus Tyrant. So therefore, Dominas should count as he is in the picture.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Aren't several of these characters from non-canon arcs?

Somewhere earlier people mentioned Dominas and so I was using him (no one said this was just true herald from 616). Was Dominas ever in a canon arc?

IMO characters from non-canon issues or What If's shouldn't be used unless specifically stated. Even if they are, it still doesn't change my overall decision of the winner.

Mind-rape
Large-scale reality manipulation abilities
Protection from the Source itself
Omega Beams

Are all a route that DS can travel.

IMO the Heralds have no chance.

Originally posted by Galan007
What needs to happen, is that the thread starter should give us a list of the Heralds we can use.

IMO characters from non-canon issues or What If's shouldn't be used unless specifically stated. Even if they are, it still doesn't change my overall decision of the winner.

Mind-rape
Large-scale reality manipulation abilities
Protection from the Source itself
Omega Beams

Are all a route that DS can travel.

IMO the Heralds have no chance.

He did say that he was referring to the picture minus Tyrant. So that is the list that should be used. I say DS has no chance to stand up to the sheer #'s. They will not be attacking him one at a time.

Originally posted by tdawg14
He did say that he was referring to the picture minus Tyrant. So that is the list that should be used. I say DS has no chance to stand up to the sheer #'s. They will not be attacking him one at a time.

But remember this is the most powerful version of DS whom had no weaknesses to speak of.

Originally posted by Galan007
If we are going from that one picture, then the only Herald I see DS having a problem with is 'The Kryptonian' (for obvious reasons).

But remember this is the most powerful version of DS whom had no weaknesses to speak of.

Not the Destroyer?

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Not the Destroyer?

The heralds sheer numbers mean nothing, its like throwing a hundred grains of sand at the sun, they outnumber the sun yes, but can they defeat the sun? No.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The heralds sheer numbers mean nothing, its like throwing a hundred grains of sand at the sun, they outnumber the sun yes, but can they defeat the sun? No.

Sand 10/10!

Originally posted by Galan007
If we are going from that one picture, then the only Herald I see DS having a problem with is 'The Kryptonian' (for obvious reasons).

But remember this is the most powerful version of DS whom had no weaknesses to speak of.

The Kryptonian would be a big gun out of the group. The Destroyer construct could be a huge problem for him as well. Depending on who is animating it.

Originally posted by tdawg14
The Kryptonian would be a big gun out of the group. The Destroyer construct could be a huge problem for him as well. Depending on who is animating it.

All of Asgard could be animating it, its still a microscopic piece of bacteria compared to true DS.

Originally posted by tdawg14
The Kryptonian would be a big gun out of the group. The Destroyer construct could be a huge problem for him as well. Depending on who is animating it.

That is what I have been thinking.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
That is what I have been thinking.

If the starter of the thread gave us an idea of who is in the Destroyer, we would have a better idea of its effectiveness in this battle. Depending on the person, the Destroyer could solo this or get taken out quickly. One disintegrator beam coming up and DS is bye-bye.

Originally posted by tdawg14
If the starter of the thread gave us an idea of who is in the Destroyer, we would have a better idea of its effectiveness in this battle. Depending on the person, the Destroyer could solo this or get taken out quickly. One disintegrator beam coming up and DS is bye-bye.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I have been assuming the destroyer is empty, but that a herald, or several could annimate it. For instance the SS could annimate it.

We can't just animate the Destroyer with whomever we want.

Hell, I could say that in the midst of Darkseid mind-raping and erasing the Heralds from existance, HE animates it.

Does that fly? ❌