Re: Big words & word simplicity
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I’ve noticed that a lot of the KMC’ers in here and a lot of people I’ve come across in my personal life, as well, like using “big” words a lot. And it’s probably to sound boastful or to come across as more learned than the other/s and while in front of others due to a lack of high esteem, or something. Not that I have a problem nor understand “big” words, I just think that simple words should always be used in place of seemingly complicated ones when they express the same or almost the same meaning. I always use simple words.
Oh now honestly. I mean really. This is beyond the pale.
I am probably guilty of using an extended vocabulary - or so I have been told. However unlike your "theory" there, it usually isn't a conscious effort. I don't sit here thinking "what are the longest, most intellectual words I can think of to type so as to bolster my flagging self esteem" - no, rather this is simply the way I type.
The great purists and masters of speech, exemplars of style, used short, simple words that all could understand.
Good for them. Funny, some of the greatest speakers I have heard often have wonderful mastery of the language in which they are speaking, gripping turns of phrase, and the ability to adapt their speech to suit the audience. I am yet to see one who is a master simply because he tries to stick to monosyllabic words.
And if you think that everything can be explained with short words then I fear you are just skimming across the academic community, the science community and so on. There is a reason language is what it is.
See me, I like getting my messages to as many people as possible and long or “big” words are not really understood by those who’ve had to hustle for a living from an early age. Though education is free, a lot never get past the “3 R’s”. And these are the people who we have to deal with most in life; people on who the world depends on for the simple things in life. Your normal everyday people.
It's a shame that message isn't really worth listening to (oh that is nasty Imperial_Samura), but at least we can ignore it without taxing ourselves, ah, simple ramblings.
Simple words are understood by the layman and by the brainiacs so why not use it universally all the time. I think using a language that both classes understand is the best way to communicate, to me.
I imagine you would like a single language, probably English as well? Hell, why not strip the dictionary of it vast array in implement something akin to New Speak. Then you can say "this is double plus good because now everyone understands." Though Understand would probably be to complex.
It’s a fact that nearly all clear words are short and that long words are misunderstood by more people, more often, leading to confusion.
That is one of the silliest things I have ever heard.
Shakespeare said: “A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.”
Ah Shakespeare - definitely not one for using big words.
So just a suggestion on word simplicity: Most brief words are half short but they could be twice as strong as a longer word can be of the same meaning. Try using them.
How about no? Basically this thread, from you, is a chance to say how much you dislike people who use "big words" (God, if that isn't a childish way of describing them), your reasoning why "big words bad" (because they apparently promote misunderstanding and people wont get the message) and to bolster your own self esteem by saying you already type under your proposed system ("I like my message getting out their, so I type short."😉
The verisimilitude and temerity of your opinion that those who appropriate the mobilization of 'big words' in their literal expressions are merely demonstrating the flamboyance of their intellect and being verbose is a positively erroneous assumption.
If my old English Extension teacher could of read that it would it would have given him an orgasm. He actually advised us to trying and fit "verisimilitude" into our essays, "because markers like showings of vocabulary."
And he often spoke like that as well. I think those two years enlarged my vocabulary more then the previous ten combined.
Mark Twain couldn't even spell, and look at him today!! .OK, don't look at him, he's dead,....eww.
Spelling and grammar doesn't make one more or less intelligent....One that flaunts it just is a show off OR has a minus where the plus should be....lol........hmmm 😗
This is not aimed at anyone *cough, no one, cough*
Re: Re: Big words & word simplicity
Originally posted by Imperial_SamuraIf my old English Extension teacher could of read that it would it would have given him an orgasm. He actually advised us to trying and fit "verisimilitude" into our essays, "because markers like showings of vocabulary."
And he often spoke like that as well. I think those two years enlarged my vocabulary more then the previous ten combined.
The man deserves a slap.
I agree completely.
People shouldn't use "big" words, for a completely random example the word "inherent." Especially when they don't know the meaning of the word. 🙂
Discourse should be limited entirely to phrases like:
How now brown cow?
In fact, that particular phrase should be the entirety of social and professional interaction.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I agree completely.People shouldn't use "big" words, for a completely random example the word "inherent." Especially when they don't know the meaning of the word. 🙂
Discourse should be limited entirely to phrases like:
How now brown cow?
In fact, that particular phrase should be the entirety of social and professional interaction.
(He's using irony to demonstrate a point)
I-i mean he's saying stuff what he don't mean to make you look like a mug.
Re: Re: Big words & word simplicity
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
If my old English Extension teacher could of read that it would it would have given him an orgasm. He actually advised us to trying and fit "verisimilitude" into our essays, "because markers like showings of vocabulary."And he often spoke like that as well. I think those two years enlarged my vocabulary more then the previous ten combined.
I'm available for private lessons at a cost of 25GBP/ hour. Cheap, really...considering.
('could have', by the way...'could have'😉.
Re: Re: Re: Big words & word simplicity
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yea so. I meant try using small words alot more to get further with more people, communication-wise.
Perhaps you should consider that those who use "big words" do so not to seem more intelligent, but because they do not want to be able to communicate with the lowest common denominator.
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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Perhaps you should consider that those who use "big words" do so not to seem more intelligent, but because they do not want to be able to communicate with the lowest common denominator.
True, snobs like that do exist but me, I'd rather have what I have to say heard by, and recieve feedback from, 20 avarage citizens than 5 Harvard business graduates, on any day.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big words & word simplicity
Originally posted by FistOfThe NorthThe difference is the Harvard snobs are the ones with the money and political muscle. Those 20 average citizens are going to hear what you say, and then go on with life, the snobs may actually do something about the information received. Average citizens are average because they didn't do anything to make them anything but average.
True, snobs like that do exist but me, I'd rather have what I have to say heard by, and recieve feedback from, 20 avarage citizens than 5 Harvard business graduates, on any day.