Originally posted by GamesmasterYou do not have to kill an opponent to beat them.
PC Superman can die, can't he? Afterall, he was shown to be an old man at age one million. This implies PC Superman is not immortal, but Thanos tends to be, given his frequent resurrections from Death and now especially with Keith Giffen's hint of him becoming Death.
Originally posted by GamesmasterDude, Thanos has only defeated "LT and the other cosmics" by using either the IG, or THOTI. He didn't beat them under his own power.
Also, as one member has suggested in another forum, one of Thanos' powers tends to be his being one step ahead and knowing his foes well, one aspect of his god-like knowledge. I would suspect that with pred, he would defeat PC Superman much like he has the LT and most other Marvel cosmic beings.
You're missing the point of any fictional universe.
When and where is the fight? In Death's realm, Superman's soul stands no chance. My point is simple. Too many if's when considering location, prep, and even destiny (for example, Orion ending Darkseid). I like to think of destiny as the writers' will, though. Giffen's killing Thanos was followed by outrage from a surprisingly large number of Thanos fans, which in turn was followed by Giffen appeasing them with the possibility of making him even stronger.
This is why these Vs. threads really prove nothing, at least in regards to the future. But given the retcons, even the past isn't hallow ground. Perhaps a fiction that has ended definitively, but Marvel and DC are ongoing. So, they're open to difference and deference, a common problem in these threads.
Originally posted by Galan007
Dude, Thanos has only defeated "LT and the other cosmics" by using either the IG, or THOTI. He didn't beat them under his own power.
So? What matters is that he defeated them with prep. He knew what he wanted and how to get it, and he did. Downsizing this obvious characterization of Thanos' would be like downsizing Superman's intelligence to Bizarro's. Do you think Superman would be a good match then, if he were easily outwitted?
The way I see it, with prep Thanos could nearly defeat anyone, save the Gods of Marvel and DC in the monotheistic sense. And this thread's creater mentioned nothing of having no prep.
Originally posted by GamesmasterHave you even read the IG/The End saga's?
So? What matters is that he defeated them with prep. He knew what he wanted and how to get it, and he did. Downsizing this obvious characterization of Thanos' would be like downsizing Superman's intelligence to Bizarro's. Do you think Superman would be a good match then, if he were easily outwitted?The way I see it, with prep Thanos could nearly defeat anyone, save the Gods of Marvel and DC in the monotheistic sense. And this thread's creater mentioned nothing of having no prep.
Thanos defeating the cosmics with the IG and THOTI had nothing to do with prep.
I hate trying to make a point to fanboys. It just gets frustrating.
If it pleases you to categorize me as a fanboy in order to more easily dismiss my points, then do so. My goal is not to frustrate you. Rather, my goal is to give valid points.
I own the IG and the End sagas. I know that he intentionally sought after each gem, for example, after studying from the Infinity Well.