Originally posted by Chikorita
people here on KMC debates with the characters totally unlike they would have fought...
Yes. They all like to ignore that CIS isn't turned off and everyone is supposed to fight in character... and yet in every single debate Cyclops apparently has no problem with taking off his visor and leveling the battle ground... 馃槙
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm sure GG has something in his cache to disorient Logan's senses which would leave him vulnerable to an attack. Logan's enhanced senses could be a weakness to exploit for Norman.
that's true actually.. norman has a couple of gas bombs which may or may not work on logan in a more than effective manner.
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm sure GG has something in his cache to disorient Logan's senses which would leave him vulnerable to an attack. Logan's enhanced senses could be a weakness to exploit for Norman.
Originally posted by jinzin
this is pretty simple... if goblin's higher than wolverine can reach, wolverine can dodge pretty easily.. if goblin's close enough to hit wolverine with the bombs then he's most likely low.. and he's vulnerable... wolverine takes the majority simply because
A)it's going to be hard to get direct hits on logan amajority of the time
B) even if goblin DOES he still isn't guaranteed a KO
C) he's more likely to run out of bombs before that happens and h2h will be the only option left..unless goblin just flies away to get more bombs.. then he wins by default.
I agree with this in everything except the running out part
It seems generally that this thread has become "under what condition can wolverine hope to have a shot to hit goblin".
Sure, in h2h wolverine wins, if goblin gets in too close, he might take a slash...
but really? its a stalemate unless one of them has a showing totally against their character.
oh, he might run out of gas.... so he lands on top of a building... Like, ok, if you call running out of bounds a loss, but then you are simply tying the hands of GG. "Oh, he gets to fight, but he cannot utilize his flight to its maximum efficiency"
Originally posted by inamilist
I agree with this in everything except the running out partIt seems generally that this thread has become "under what condition can wolverine hope to have a shot to hit goblin".
Sure, in h2h wolverine wins, if goblin gets in too close, he might take a slash...
but really? its a stalemate unless one of them has a showing totally against their character.
oh, he might run out of gas.... so he lands on top of a building... Like, ok, if you call running out of bounds a loss, but then you are simply tying the hands of GG. "Oh, he gets to fight, but he cannot utilize his flight to its maximum efficiency"
Goblin can fly off to get more bombs if he wants... but he loses by default for leaving the battle field. 馃槑
Originally posted by inamilist
I agree with this in everything except the running out partIt seems generally that this thread has become "under what condition can wolverine hope to have a shot to hit goblin".
Sure, in h2h wolverine wins, if goblin gets in too close, he might take a slash...
but really? its a stalemate unless one of them has a showing totally against their character.
oh, he might run out of gas.... so he lands on top of a building... Like, ok, if you call running out of bounds a loss, but then you are simply tying the hands of GG. "Oh, he gets to fight, but he cannot utilize his flight to its maximum efficiency"
nah i'm not taking anything away from gobs.. i'm just saying in a situation where gobs is actually trying to CONFRONT logan and take him down... logan will more than likely win...
if goblin gets to go home after he's run out of bombs or whatever.. then he wins by default based on him actually inflicting damage..
wolverine nailing GG or getting him in a h2h fight isn't THAT inplausible.. it's just unlikely.
Originally posted by Chikorita
goblin flys low, tries to hit, misses, wolverine jumos through the smoke, slashes his jet, gg hits the ground, wolverine wins in one strikethats how it would have ended, i can imagine馃槈 more comicstyle than the battledroidstyle driven mostly here on kmc...
wolverine is going to slash a glider moving at 300 mph while he is also dodging highly accurate projectiles moving at superspeeds?
That one slash that he gets is going to be enough to destroy the glider?
really, people, respect the Green Goblin, he isnt a chump
You really can't win the argument by saying that Norman is going to have a lower showing than Urich would have....
Originally posted by jinzin
nah i'm not taking anything away from gobs.. i'm just saying in a situation where gobs is actually trying to CONFRONT logan and take him down... logan will more than likely win...if goblin gets to go home after he's run out of bombs or whatever.. then he wins by default based on him actually inflicting damage..
wolverine nailing GG or getting him in a h2h fight isn't THAT inplausible.. it's just unlikely.
Totally
I don't think its a win for him by any means, I just think realistically he is going to see how much of a bad ass mofo wolverine is and jet.
If its an arena style fight where they HAVE to duke it out till the death, Wolverine probably wins simply because of the healing, but thats fairly straightforward.
Originally posted by jinzin
nah i'm not taking anything away from gobs.. i'm just saying in a situation where gobs is actually trying to CONFRONT logan and take him down... logan will more than likely win...if goblin gets to go home after he's run out of bombs or whatever.. then he wins by default based on him actually inflicting damage..
wolverine nailing GG or getting him in a h2h fight isn't THAT inplausible.. it's just unlikely.
Green Goblin: T! I need a time out Wolverine! 馃檨
Wolverine: Whats up bub? 馃槙
Green Goblin: I ran out of weapons... wait right here, I'll go grab some more bombs! 馃檪
Wolverine: .... Not a chance. 馃槅
Green Goblin: But... but that's not fair. 馃檨
Originally posted by capt it up
true slightly, but true. how ever if this is a city land scape Logan would due even better vs green goblin then spider-man
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine senses work like a a spidersenses. It been stated due to his reflexes and supersense he is able to see bullets in slow motion
Originally posted by capt it up
They have also help him to prodict attacks from speedstirrs. Wolverien ahs explained his cna senses the vibration in the air so he knwos were the attack in comming from. His senses work like DD in a way.
Originally posted by capt it up
Norman smart yes. but combat smart no. Combat smart wise Logan out class norman or spider-man his tactical prowess is just better
Originally posted by Priest
Hmm i can understand if the battle takes place in a wood area maybe in a forest, wolverine would have a advantage over spider-man.
But in a city like land scape? no way, spider-man is way more mobile, webbing allows hims to swing from building to building, and can stick to the buildings. Wolverine would just be bound to just running around on the streets, hiding under cars trying to avoid those bombs.
Originally posted by Priest
Wolverine senses aren't as developed/good as spidermans' spidersence.
Originally posted by Priest
Tell me, who gets shot more my bullets spider-man or Wolverine?..the obvious answer is spider-man, Capt.
Originally posted by Priest
DD senses are way above wolverine,
Originally posted by Priest
if u have both of them fight unarmed, wolverine wearing a blind fold, DD would rock him
Originally posted by Priest
hand to hand wolverine is leagues above Goblin, but Goblin with his glider can be very clever.
Originally posted by capt it up
Actually he could simply hide watch green goblin and sneak up on him. Easy strategy and green goblin is dead and trust me green goblin would not even see it coming.
Originally posted by capt it up
Actauly in some ways it better. He can due other things with his senses. They work sorta like a spidersense. Spidersense may be better for dodging, but really no by that much.
Originally posted by capt it up
Did you ask who gets shot more by bullet鈥檚? What a dumb question. Logan lets him self get shot because he knows it does nothing to him.
Originally posted by capt it up
Actually there not. DD has slightly better hearing while logan has better sense of smell.
Originally posted by capt it up
That due to DD body creating a radar sense. It makes of for his lack of sight so that really means nothing
Originally posted by capt it up
What he gunna do when he out of bombs?