Daredevil vs Black Panther

Originally posted by jrodslam
What is speculation? Explain. What do you mean DD has to figure out a way to rip the suit? He can just grab something sharp like a piece of glass, a rock etc. I think its possible for DD to figure out a way to damage the suit without being defeated.

Isn't that reaching a bit? Giving Matt a sharp object to cut the suit in order for him cut that suit along the seams so that he can hit Panther with a pressure point attack? And is T'Challa going to just sit there? Matt is good enough to hold his own, but against someone who he can't take down as easily and who has the physical advantages Matt loses. Panther 6/10

As much as I don't like to admit it, I do see Black Panther taking the majority for the sole reason of the suit. No more, no less, just the suit.

Capt is 110% right, outside of a Plot device, there is very little chance, if any, DD will be able to get through panthers suit. The only person to damage it thus far was Iron Fist and he was traded blows with the likes of Luke Cage, Iron man, and even a small tussles with thing and colossus. So if DD is in Iron fist league of strength please let me know. Also Panther suit now has an special type of extra armor he can call forth..

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/Black%20Panther24/blz20.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/Black%20Panther24/blz21.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/Black%20Panther24/blz22.jpg

Not sure of the new extent of the suit, its only been used one other time, against dr doom, but surely it doesn't help DD chances.

Don't get me wrong, DD will still be able to damage panther, but not to the extent in which he would normally be accustomed too.

Physical Attributes is no question, Panther is walking the Superhuman lines theses days in that department. And although DD has his radar sense, Panther has his Superhuman kinesthetic sense, this is what allow humans to close our eyes yet know where the parts of our body's are..

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supra24ho.jpg
http://img157.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img157&image=supra37la.jpg
That explains how he was able to do this

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/BP24/08.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/BP24/09.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/BP24/10.jpg

Notice how he catches caps shield, bouncing off multiple walls, while performing an crazy acrobatic maneuver and still manages to knock cap on his ass in this sparring match. Panthers seneses extend beyond his body, he can feel out his surronding by his kinesthetic sense alone, not to mention his super hearing, taste, touch, sight.

So yeah, DD has the ever so slight advantage in senses, but BP is not far behind.

And as far as killing power goes, panther has this in spades. BP has the wolverine factor, he could end the fight with one swipe, not to mention his energy daggers, which can be fired like projectiles, or used as knifes, and are strong enough to cut forged steel on its highest setting.

Sorry guys, with standard equipment, Panther walks away with a very healthy majority.

If they where fighting just H2H, no equipment, then yes, I would say 50/50 or 6/10 even still for panther because of his Physical Attributes alone.

Damn....Panther 9/10

Panther for the reasons stated above.

Iron Fist the only one to damage the suit? Killmonger did the same thing did he not? What was White Wolfs suit made out of? Does anyone know? For DD to get hit with any type of projectile, is pretty unlikely. Ill concede a 5/5 split.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Iron Fist the only one to damage the suit? Killmonger did the same thing did he not? What was White Wolfs suit made out of? Does anyone know? For DD to get hit with any type of projectile, is pretty unlikely. Ill concede a 5/5 split.

Ive got it!! Give them both vibranium suits!!!

Originally posted by capt it up
it not though and your letting your bias get in the way of good judgement. There is no reason DD should take a even split and you have yet to explain how DD will even damage the suit.

You quote me but didnt answer any of my questions.

Originally posted by jrodslam
You quote me but didnt answer any of my questions.

Originally posted by capt it up
ou had not valid qestions. How is DD going to ripped the seems of black panthers suit? even if he was able to he would be taking hit after hit and he would fall. You seem to put way to much faith into DD abilities when he facing soem one with as good if not superior attributes

How are my questions not valid? If you dont know the answers to them just say so. Once my questions get answered, i can then continue with the debate. Im not putting to much faith in DD. You underestimate DD way too much. Taking hit after hit? Yea, if the writer intended for the fight to be even somewhat. Superior attribues? Yea because we all know DD has never fought someone with superior attributes before.😬

Originally posted by jrodslam
How are my questions not valid? If you dont know the answers to them just say so. Once my questions get answered, i can then continue with the debate. Im not putting to much faith in DD. You underestimate DD way too much. Taking hit after hit? Yea, if the writer intended for the fight to be even somewhat. Superior attribues? Yea because we all know DD has never fought someone with superior attributes before.😬

Despite the lack of 'superness," I think this could be an epic battle between two great characters.
Re: the scientists' explanation of B.P.'s abilities, I think the point was they were off. B.P. (like Fist) is spiritual. Along with intense physical training he senses things with a higher inituion and a greater feel for where things are (possibly through meditation and evoking the spirit of the panther). he's closer to that "one with everything" effect than most people.
I'm not certain why some people are insistant that D.D. has the greater H2H ability. Why is that? Even without his fancy schmanzy new suit, should B.P. rival D.D.?
Tired of seeing Panther underrated. Too many writers have made him take a backseat to Captain America too often... makes me really appreciate those scenes ApolloKnight gave us.

I'm not even sure if DD is better than BP when it comes to H2H, but it would be a great fight.

50/50

How do people get 50/50 when DD has not means to damage black panther unless he manages to destroy the suit at the seems which is close to impossable with out a edge weapons of sorts

I'm talking just H2H without any vibranium suits or billy clubs. Let em' duke it out.

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm talking just H2H without any vibranium suits or billy clubs. Let em' duke it out.