Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
You clearly don't know aything about Lily Allen's life...and you entered an argument completely uninformed...Again, just shot yourself in the foot.Amazing! You seriously have a knack for proving you're completely clueless. Truly amazing how bad you get time after time.
Dunno, Wikipedia agrees with him...but whatever...I'd like if RATM would make another Album.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
You clearly don't know anything about Lily Allen's life...and you entered an argument completely uninformed...Again, just shot yourself in the foot.Amazing! You seriously have a knack for proving you're completely clueless. Truly incredible how bad you get time after time.
You excel at incompetence in pretty much all areas. You're weak in your knowledge, logic, musical insight, and character.
I feel my soul and brain are actually starting to rot just by talking to you. 😆
(...and again, I'm sticking it to you cause you're a punk)
So how about an actual reply to my post? Can you manage that, or are you too insecure, scared and wrong?
I don't need to know about her life to know she's a poser. I'm from the city she sings about, one of the worst parts. I've lived here 21 years, and I know a damn sight better about my own country and it's culture than some wanna be Brit. That was the point, you don't have the backing to talk about how relevant my country's music is in general, how much is accepted, how much isn't, or what's accurate and what isn't. You don't live here.
I happen to know for a fact that Lily Allen is talking crap, you believe her cos you're just sucking up anything from Britain.
I said you'd dodge everything, I was right.
Also, as for you bashing Wikipedia:
"Allen is accused by some of cultivating a chav image, but she actually enjoyed a highly privileged upbringing, attending the private schools Hill House and Bedales, famous as one of the five most expensive schools in the UK.".
That's true, isn't it? That's not made up, and she's said so herself. So what business does she have of talking about how bad London life is? She has no clue. That's precisely why her "social commentary" is limited to "People get mugged, do drugs etc". Because that's a given in any city. She can't pinpoint specific experiences outside of having problems with her boyfriend, because she's a sheltered little rich girl faker.
-AC
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
...don't know if I'll be able to find what I saw on tv or read in whatever I read it in. And not about to waste my time trying to search for it either.What do you know about Lily Allen (apart from Wiki-"knowledge"😉 to suggest otherwise?
...skedaddle!
Well, I also asked Allmusic.com
With her omnivorous musical tastes and cheeky attitude, London-based pop singer/songwriter Lily Allen made a name for herself almost as soon as she released her demos on the Internet. The daughter of comedian Keith Allen, Lily spent most of her childhood bouncing from one school to another -- in fact, she attended 13 different schools between the ages of five and 15. This constant moving meant she didn't have much of a chance to make lasting friendships, so Allen entertained herself with books and, especially, music: she listened to everything from T. Rex, the Specials, and the Slits to the Happy Mondays and drum'n'bass, and even ran away to see the Glastonbury Festival when she was 14.
And that kinda goes along with AC said...so, I don't know why you say he doesn't know anything about her...
He's dodging the point, it's not about whether I know anything about her or not.
It's about the fact that she is a poser and he's using her as some anglophilic gauge of English culture because she sings about "life" and has an English accent, when anyone from here will tell you she's just being general.
Dizzee Rascal, whom I dislike, has more accurate descriptions of London than she does, because he's actually been involved in some of the bad shit that goes down. I know this because I know him, I went to school with him. Lily Allen looks up to him because he sings about shit she wishes she could sing about.
She's a faker, and that's a fact. No uneducated Canadian is going to prove me wrong.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Can you manage that, or are you too insecure, scared and wrong?
You are completely incapable of grasping concepts, understanding music, and being a man. As a result, I don't want to talk to you.
You're an insufferable little punk kid.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I also asked Allmusic.comWith her omnivorous musical tastes and cheeky attitude, London-based pop singer/songwriter Lily Allen made a name for herself almost as soon as she released her demos on the Internet. The daughter of comedian Keith Allen, Lily spent most of her childhood bouncing from one school to another -- in fact, she attended 13 different schools between the ages of five and 15. This constant moving meant she didn't have much of a chance to make lasting friendships, so Allen entertained herself with books and, especially, music: she listened to everything from T. Rex, the Specials, and the Slits to the Happy Mondays and drum'n'bass, and even ran away to see the Glastonbury Festival when she was 14.
And that kinda goes along with AC said...so, I don't know why you say he doesn't know anything about her...
WHAAAAAAT???
While I was reading that, I was waiting until the part that actually alluded to anything to the effect of "posh" or "buttered up" or "rich".
Could you have found a more HORRIBLE quote to back yourself up with?
Are you guys all that incompetent?
That was freakin hilarious!!!
Even if you're suggesting she had privileged beginnings...things changed.
And what does all this have to do with anything??
AC, you're some piece of work. You've totally taken the argument away from relevancy to try and prove I don't know anything about Lily Allen and Britain.
????
Is your lame point that she can't write about the times because she wasn't as poor as you think she needs to be to have any idea about what she sees around her....what??? Did you even get a high school education???
I honestly can't do this anymore, this is just insane!
...Be back later when there's actually something good to talk about. Not gonna argue with a 10 year old.
Oh give it up!!
What's amazing is that you still haven't figured out by now that there was a divorce...no you don't know that. Don't look into now and post pretending that you do.
You haven't said anything of your own to lead me to believe that you know that, and I know that the quotes and references you've given me don’t refer to that either.
Once more, you don't know anything about her story...so go away.
And again, just to maybe put an intelligent thought into your brain for consideration..."Even if you're suggesting she had privileged beginnings...things changed."
A daughter of a comedian? What does that mean?
You've brought up 1 out of her 13 schools? Are you hearing yourself?
Good arguments!
All you're doing here is taking sides with someone who is disagreeing with me. What did you get yourself into?
Next time, try talking about something you know something about, and not joining along for the sake of ganging up on someone (like a bunch of others here constantly do).
...the class in this place...really.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Oh give it up!!What's amazing is that you still haven't figured out by now that there was a divorce...no you don't know that. Don't look into now and post pretending that you do.
You haven't said anything of your own to lead me to believe that you know that, and I know that the quotes and references you've given me don’t refer to that either.
Once more, you don't know anything about her story...so go away.
And again, just to maybe put an intelligent thought into your brain for consideration..."Even if you're suggesting she had privileged beginnings...things changed."
A daughter of a comedian? What does that mean?
You've brought up 1 out of her 13 schools? Are you hearing yourself?
Good arguments!
All you're doing here is taking sides with someone who is disagreeing with me. What did you get yourself into?
Next time, try talking about something you know something about, and not joining along for the sake of ganging up on someone (like a bunch of others here constantly do).
...the class in this place...really.
You have provided....nothing. Right, that's it, I didn't know anything about her I admit that...that's why I looked stuff up and well, all I read supports AC's point of view. She apparently tries to get some sort of chav image while actually coming from a rather good background. I am willing to be educated, but sorry, your word alone is not enough, if you are going to provide evidence I will be here to listen. Though I assume you won't.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
AC, you're some piece of work. You've totally taken the argument away from relevancy to try and prove I don't know anything about Lily Allen and Britain.????
Is your lame point that she can't write about the times because she wasn't as poor as you think she needs to be to have any idea about what she sees around her....what??? Did you even get a high school education???
I honestly can't do this anymore, this is just insane!
...Be back later when there's actually something good to talk about. Not gonna argue with a 10 year old.
I own you, haha.
My point is that she can't credibly and realistically talk about how bad London life is because she hasn't experienced it, which is precisely why her "special", "fresh" and "witty" "social commentary" is limited to such over-generalised observations as "People get mugged and do drugs".
So therefore, you using her and artists LIKE her to determine your view of what British culture and musical culture is like, is faulty, because her description is faulty. So don't sit there and tell me what music is accepted, what music isn't, and what my country's culture is like. I wouldn't sit there and tell you about Canada, I've been there once. Me loving the place (Or at least places I've been) doesn't qualify me as an authority on it, like you and Britain.
So before you go putting Britain on a pedestal based on what you think you know, come here and live here for a while, then make your judgement. Don't listen to Lily Allen and assume you know about British life.
About relevancy: What's so special about her? She's talking about relationships and problems the city has. She's not being especially relevant to a specific cause with any kind of intelligence, like Bob Dylan would, or System of a Down would. She's being about as relevant as 2pac; "The world/London is shitty.". Yes, thank you for that profound observation, I was quite unaware that my city can be the pits, living in East London (Which, I believe, has the highest murder rate of any part of London, not sure if that's still the case). I'm sure she gained all the London life experience when she attended three of the top five most expensive private schools in the UK.
You know nothing about that which you base your opinions on. I do.
The reason you're shitting yourself is because you know you can't debate me on my own country's culture, I've lived here for 21 years, it's unknown as to whether or not you've even stepped foot here.
Of course, this post won't be met with a significant reply. You will pick and choose which parts to twist and reply to, if any, before telling me I don't get it and running away.
-AC
Originally posted by Bardock42
Though I assume you won't.
PS. I commend you for having the guts to be honest. Maybe you're not as feeblish as some of these other goofs are.
...and AC, still haven't read your post...that's what you get for being a joke of a conversationalist. You used your weaselish tactics one too many times to be bearable anymore.
Back to relevancy or reuniting bands then...or something.