Originally posted by Galan007I guess that means Hawkeye's arrows are just as good as Stark tech since he injured Nul 😛
I'm not saying Tony beat, or permanently injured, GG-- just saying that Stark-tech was sufficient to [easily] bypass GG's mystical enchantments, and cause him a good deal of harm.Huge feat for Stark.
It was a good feat for Tony though.
Originally posted by Galan007
Matter of opinion.
Are you saying that GG's and Jugger's enchantments are the same?
I, for one, haven't been overly impressed with Colossus outside of that crabbed-out form he pulled out of his ass. Colossus=/=Cain.
Cain hasn't always been uber impressive either. He can work Hulk and Thor but got tooled by the X-Men. Often.
Saying Colossus=/=Cain is like saying Superman=/=Zod. Main difference is level of power and fighting style. They still have the same powers and weaknesses. Colossus was just granted more power like Superman had more power
Originally posted by juggermanNo. However, both powersets are magical/mystical in nature-- and Juggy's powerset does vary in accordance with his mindset. Always has. Like I mentioned, Colossus has yet to strike me as the invulnerable powerhouse Cain was. Again, my opinion.
Are you saying that GG's and Jugger's enchantments are the same?Saying Colossus=/=Cain is like saying Superman=/=Zod. Main difference is level of power and fighting style. They still have the same powers and weaknesses. Colossus was just granted more power like Superman had more power
Actually, it's like comparing Superman to a random/no-name/n00b Kryptonian from the 'New Krypton' arc. They both have the same powerset in theory, but Superman will always be superior thanks to his years of experience with his powers. Cain would be akin to Superman, Colossus would be akin to a n00b Kryptonian.
Originally posted by Galan007
No. However, both powersets are magical/mystical in nature-- and Juggy's powerset does vary in accordance with his mindset. Always has. Like I mentioned, Colossus has yet to strike me as the invulnerable powerhouse Cain was. Again, my opinion.Actually, it's like comparing Superman to a random/no-name/n00b Kryptonian from the 'New Krypton' arc. They both have the same powerset in theory, but Superman will always be superior thanks to his years of experience with his powers. Cain would be akin to Superman, Colossus would be akin to a n00b Kryptonian.
Ok some random Kryptonian. But Colossus seems to be able to access more power than Cain. And given Cyttorak's statement it seems like Colossus was granted a larger amount of power
Originally posted by Galan007This I perfectly agree with.
No. However, both powersets are magical/mystical in nature-- and Juggy's powerset does vary in accordance with his mindset. Always has. Like I mentioned, Colossus has yet to strike me as the invulnerable powerhouse Cain was. Again, my opinion.Actually, it's like comparing Superman to a random/no-name/n00b Kryptonian from the 'New Krypton' arc. They both have the same powerset in theory, but Superman will always be superior thanks to his years of experience with his powers. Cain would be akin to Superman, Colossus would be akin to a n00b Kryptonian.
Originally posted by 8swordsIt's 600. And there was no indicating he was maxed out either.
uhhh,, is it really 600 mph?, i thought it was 300. 300/600 mph isnt his flat speed, meaning he needs to accelerate to that speed in a matter of minutesand he only RAN 300/600 MPH, he didnt fly, so what would that do to IM flying?
Originally posted by juggernaut74
He was beating the crap out of Kuurth and Red Hulk also. Kuurth may have been depowered thought but we don't know how much.
Red Hulk on average is as strong as Thor and his punches did "nothing" to Colossus. Now let's compare. Kuurth was depowered but he was strong enough to punch Colossus with enough force to crack his bones. Kuurth was still above elite Heralds in strength.
Originally posted by carver9Good points, never thought of any of those.
Red Hulk on average is as strong as Thor and his punches did "nothing" to Colossus. Now let's compare. Kuurth was depowered but he was strong enough to punch Colossus with enough force to crack his bones. Kuurth was still above elite Heralds in strength.
Since this thread began in 2007, I would have likely said that Iron Man would light Peter's a$$ up like a Christmas tree. Currently though I'm leaning towards Peter being able to tank nearly anything that Tony can hit him with. The Juggernaut has been nerfed, and even in his most powerful form to date, he pales in comparison to Cain's glory days.