Originally posted by capt it up
None of that has helped him much while fighting superior MA such as night wing, batman, bat girl and so on
Yes it did. He's got a nice winning record against batman - he normally stomps him.
And Batgirl couldn't even read slade.
The only reason Nightwing is even a nuisance to him is because Dick knows EXACTLY how Slade works, after studying and tracking him for so long.
Originally posted by Priest
TaskMaster would probally know exactly how slade works after 20 seconds of fighting.
Not exactly, he would have absolute knowledge of every technique Slade used in those 20 seconds.
With time he could extrapolate Slade's potential abilities but not until well into the fight I would think.
Originally posted by Priest
TaskMaster would probally know exactly how slade works after 20 seconds of fighting.
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As Symmetric pointed out, Taskmaster would be able to perfectly duplicate any fighting maneuvers that Slade used, but he'd be entirely unable to keep up with Slade's superior strength and speed.
Besides that, who knows if Taskmaster's ability would even work? It's failed to work in the past, and Slade was able to fool Cass' reading ability - why not Taskmasters'?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not exactly, he would have absolute knowledge of every technique Slade used in those 20 seconds.
With time he could extrapolate Slade's potential abilities but not until well into the fight I would think.
Originally posted by Soljer
Yes it did. He's got a nice winning record against batman - he normally stomps him.And Batgirl couldn't even read slade.
The only reason Nightwing is even a nuisance to him is because Dick knows EXACTLY how Slade works, after studying and tracking him for so long.
Originally posted by Soljer
Roughly the same stats? Are you stoned?I demand you go read long pig's submissions in the Deathstroke respect thread. Physically, taskmaster is leagues below him.
wow for a second I thought I was in the midnighter vs deathstroke thread lol
Originally posted by capt it up
Long pig also thinks slade can run as fast as flash for a few steps which is BS. I don't care what Long pig says. Many of death strokes feats are simply PIS simple as that. Death stroke has trouble time and time again with MA's. Though it is true detah stroke is far superior in strength his speed advantage is not so great when TM can perfectly mimic spidermans and DD movements by amping his speed into the superhuman rangeswow for a second I thought I was in the midnighter vs deathstroke thread lol
Deathstrokes feats are PIS? What? He's been reacting to flashes for his ENTIRE RUN.
The argument you're making is the same one that people try to use against Wolverine; "He shouldn't be able to hang with the Hulk! It's PIS!" He's been doing it since his creation!
And twice human speed is NOTHING to Slade.
Speed of thought:
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsphoefeat3lp.jpg
Instantaneous reflexes:
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstrokeannual03122pl.jpg
Rolls with Impulses' punch and kicks the shit out of him:
http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teentitans5pyratep02034iv.jpg
Ten times normal human reflexes (While depowered):
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladefast6dr.jpg
The PIS feat everyone talks about, that's actually more legitimate than most people want to admit:
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg026in5vv.jpg
Green Arrow, who is probably on Taskmaster's speed level might as well be standing still:
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg057th4it.jpg
She opens her mouth, breathes, and between then and when she can scream? Slade decks her:
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg067ib4sk.jpg
Nightwing gives him trouble? He TOYS with Nightwing:
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight14tc.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight29wf.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight39np.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight53qy.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight67dy.jpg
His senses are magnified ten thousand times, and he's seen things on the MICROSCOPIC level before:
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01009hw7.jpg
He avoids starbolts like they were standing still - guess how fast starbolts are?
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01011xk0.jpg
Downs the Flash. For the seventieth time:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ntt03419fy7.jpg
Slade can put changeling down before changeling can even lift a finger:
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newtitansv206220rougherun0.jpg
Stabs? Heal in seconds. A Gunshot? Fixed in a minute. His healing is underrated, and would mean that Taskmaster could do about as much lasting damage to Slade as he could to Wolverine:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstroke5203ha0.jpg
Reflexes compared to the flashes....again:
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitansv10221pp5.jpg
He owns Wally West...again? Woah. Seventy one:
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg
Another speedster? Are you sure it's all PIS? He does it EVERY FRIGGIN COMIC:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5479938
....
Taskmaster is out of his league.
EDIT:
Oh, and Batgirl?
Slade's out of her league, too:
Too fast. This is from Batgirl, who has some great speed feats of her own.
http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bgds37va.jpg
She admits that he's toying with her. Twice:
http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bgds54jw.jpg
http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bgds99au.jpg
Originally posted by Soljer
Deathstrokes feats are PIS? What? He's been reacting to flashes for his ENTIRE RUN.The argument you're making is the same one that people try to use against Wolverine; "He shouldn't be able to hang with the Hulk! It's PIS!" He's been doing it since his creation!
And twice human speed is NOTHING to Slade.
Speed of thought:
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsphoefeat3lp.jpg
Instantaneous reflexes:
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstrokeannual03122pl.jpg
Rolls with Impulses' punch and kicks the shit out of him:
http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teentitans5pyratep02034iv.jpg
Ten times normal human reflexes (While depowered):
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladefast6dr.jpg
The PIS feat everyone talks about, that's actually more legitimate than most people want to admit:
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg026in5vv.jpg
Green Arrow, who is probably on Taskmaster's speed level might as well be standing still:
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg057th4it.jpg
She opens her mouth, breathes, and between then and when she can scream? Slade decks her:
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg067ib4sk.jpg
Nightwing gives him trouble? He TOYS with Nightwing:http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight14tc.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight29wf.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight39np.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight53qy.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight67dy.jpg
His senses are magnified ten thousand times, and he's seen things on the MICROSCOPIC level before:
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01009hw7.jpg
He avoids starbolts like they were standing still - guess how fast starbolts are?
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01011xk0.jpg
Downs the Flash. For the seventieth time:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ntt03419fy7.jpg
Slade can put changeling down before changeling can even lift a finger:
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newtitansv206220rougherun0.jpg
Stabs? Heal in seconds. A Gunshot? Fixed in a minute. His healing is underrated, and would mean that Taskmaster could do about as much lasting damage to Slade as he could to Wolverine:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstroke5203ha0.jpg
Reflexes compared to the flashes....again:
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitansv10221pp5.jpg
He owns Wally West...again? Woah. Seventy one:
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg
Another speedster? Are you sure it's all PIS? He does it EVERY FRIGGIN COMIC:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5479938....
Taskmaster is out of his league.
I can't really debate that since I do not read TM regularly nor is his respect theard any were enar as impressive.
One question you think slade can move as fast as Flash? Is that a serosu comment? Wolverine and spiderman hti speed stirrs all the time, but I would never say they could mvoe any were near as fast. Death stroke also constantly get hit by street levelers yet he can move as fast as flash? Does that make any sense? It a lot of hype. Fash can mvoe many times the speed of light and there is no way in hell death stroke can do that. So now deaths troke has superior reflexes to spiderman and wolverine even if you combind them?
also green arrow speed is no were near taskmaster. Taskmaster can mimic all of spidermans moves for the most part and his powers allow him to go into the super human ranges.
I wish i had the means to debate this better, but I just do not have the evidence I need.
also when death stroke had 10 times normal humans reflexs his was no depowered.
Taskmaster's powers do NOT allow him to go into superhuman speed or strength levels. No. They do not. It has been stated in at least two Taskmaster comics to my memory. He can replicate the act, but not the efficiency. He can move like spiderman, but not with Spiderman's speed.
As for your 'serious question,' No. Slade cannot move as fast as the Flash. However, he can, obviously, react as fast as the Flash. Especially considering that it was stated. In text. In about a dozen comics, and in several of the scans I posted just above. Slade cannot move anywhere near as fast as the Flash. But he can react as fast.
Anywho, if anything, a street leveller giving Slade trouble is PIS, not Slade giving the Flash trouble. Slade's been ****ing up speedster's days since his first appearance. Also, nearly every time Dick, Batman, or Cass have encountered Slade, he TOYS with them.
Also; I HAVE read some of Taskmaster's more impressive showings. His mini where he ditched the pirate garb? That was pretty impressive. It was where he displayed his double-speed ability.
This, however, only allows him to move TWICE as fast as a human. And he couldn't do so for very long, because the strain on his body was incredible. Deathstroke, on the other hand, out reacts Wally West, and numerous other Speedsters, treats the Green Arrow (who IS around Taskmaster's speed level, believe it or not), like he was standing still. Treats friggin STARBOLTS from starfire like THEY were standing still, has instantaneous reflexes, and has his senses magnified ten thousand times over.
Oh, and let us not forget that little thing that YOU love to bring up so often; a healing factor.
If a stab wound would heal in a second, how fast do you think the damage from Taskmaster's punches would heal? Quite honestly?
Hell, Wally has said that punching Deathstroke is like punching a brick wall, anyways.
So, let us recap;
Strength? Slade - by a mile. We're talking between athletic and peak human versus class ten.
Speed? Slade. By terrameters. We're talking about double human speed to outreacting speedsters in dozens of his appearances, and managing to toy with Batgirl. Who has speed feats that easily put her at Taskmaster's level - even when taskmaster is working at double speed.
Reflexes? Slade. By a mile. Instantaneous versus between Athletic and Peak Human.
Durability? Slade. By a mile. Brick wall versus downed by deadpool's punches.
Other abilities? You know, like that nifty little HEALING FACTOR that would mean Taskmaster would never do ANY lasting damage? Slade. Taskmaster's 'other ability' is his ability to read slade, which may or may not even work. It failed on Agent X, and Cass' failed on Slade.
Fighting Skills? Taskmaster. Not by a LONG shot - Captain America has put Taskmaster down. Deadpool's done it. But Taskmaster is certainly top tier in fighting skills, and Deathstroke, while good, is a B-lister.
So....
In conclusion, this thread is spite. Perhaps not in intention, but irrevocably, it's spite.
Slade wins. 10/10.
Slade hardly curbstomps Batman in a fight. The first time they fought, Slade won, but Batman had messed him up so badly that afterwards Slade was decisively beaten by a guy who literally had both hands tied.
I can't remember, was the Batgirl incident around the time when she had trouble body reading in general?
Originally posted by Accel
Slade hardly curbstomps Batman in a fight. The first time they fought, Slade won, but Batman had messed him up so badly that afterwards Slade was decisively beaten by a guy who literally had both hands tied.I can't remember, was the Batgirl incident around the time when she had trouble body reading in general?
When Batman and Slade fought, it was when he WAS in fact depowered. It was mentioned in the Slade respect thread, and there were scans to prove it. Batman tested Slade's blood, and found that his powers were waning.
