Wolverine and Spiderman vs a lot of people

Originally posted by capt it up
Who said he would have remained dead?

due to the way time runs in Limbo, Wolverine and the rest of the xmen had been dead for some time. they were rotting corpses and skeletons at that point. Didn't read inferno, did you?

Also it is not BS, it a fact that he can come back from the dead. Go read issue 48 before you call some thing BS.

just because it happens in a comic doesn't mean it isn't BS. Just because Spiderman has been shown beating firelord, doesn't mean it isn't BS.

good for them. If he loses his powers he would die. However I wonder if he x-gene is the reason he is immortal, I would think so however it could be possible that it is not.

now you're fishing. Wolverine's powers are the ONLY reason he comes back from getting injured. without them he stays dead. Any proof to the contrary? no? just fanboy BS? moving on then...

Iceman can not turn people into water what the hell are you talking about.

Iceman can teleport himself and others via a process called "molecular inversion" where they're all converted to water. No he doesn't do it often, yes it's part of his powerset.

Not really. It a true statement that he is immortal I n the sense he can keep coming back to life if he chooses to that not to say there are not people who can get around that. [/B]

Wolverine isn't immortal in any sense of the word. So you're saying Galactus, Celestials, Odin, Death itself, The tribunal, etc can't kill wolverine unless he decides not to "go towards the light?" GTFO out of here with that nonsense.

edit: I just reread your last paragraph. it seems to say "wolverine is truly immortal and can come back, until he runs into someone who can kill him."

back to the original point of the tread spidy and wolverine should be able to take this without much of a problem

Just pointing out - Iceman CAN turn people into water molecules. It's a nifty little power of that Omega mutant, 😉.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
due to the way time runs in Limbo, Wolverine and the rest of the xmen had been dead for some time. they were rotting corpses and skeletons at that point. Didn't read inferno, did you?

I have read it and it still does not change the fact that wolverine can come back from the dead which has been stated as part of his character.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
just because it happens in a comic doesn't mean it isn't BS. Just because Spiderman has been shown beating firelord, doesn't mean it isn't BS.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
now you're fishing. Wolverine's powers are the ONLY reason he comes back from getting injured. without them he stays dead. Any proof to the contrary? no? just fanboy BS? moving on then...

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Iceman can teleport himself and others via a process called "molecular inversion" where they're all converted to water. No he doesn't do it often, yes it's part of his powerset.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Wolverine isn't immortal in any sense of the word. So you're saying Galactus, Celestials, Odin, Death itself, The tribunal, etc can't kill wolverine unless he decides not to "go towards the light?" GTFO out of here with that nonsense.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
edit: I just reread your last paragraph. it seems to say "wolverine is truly immortal and can come back, until he runs into someone who can kill him."

Originally posted by capt it up
Prove it I own every x-men comic ecpt possibly two issues and I do not recall seeing this before.

Did someone say Iceman? Check the respect thread. Its there

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Did someone say Iceman? Check the respect thread. Its there

Originally posted by capt it up

Did you listen to a word I said? They could kill him for good however most people can not. They would simply kill his soul and then he gone however if you are unable to kill his soul then wolverine can come back again.

can Galactus, Odin etc. destroy souls? I don't remember that as their ability.

Originally posted by masterbruce
can Galactus, Odin etc. destroy souls? I don't remember that as their ability.

capt's right as horrible as an excuse it may be that's marvels answer to all the crazy stuff wolvirne's survived....but he atleat they give a reason i'ld still like to know how iceman can turn people into water, or how superman can close a rift in space/time with his bare hands... when you look at it this way ... it's comics we gotta accept it

Originally posted by lando005
capt's right as horrible as an excuse it may be that's marvels answer to all the crazy stuff wolvirne's survived....but he atleat they give a reason i'ld still like to know how iceman can turn people into water, or how superman can close a rift in space/time with his bare hands... when you look at it this way ... it's comics we gotta accept it

Superman did that pre-crisis, which is a TOTALLY different ball park (like Lex Luthor making a time machine out of, what was it, orange juice cans or something?).

Iceman doing what he does makes some sense.

Wolverine being immortal (at least in this fashion) makes very little.

I mean, I don't dispute it, I've read the comic, and I've even mentioned Wolverine's immortality in a few threads here and there. I'm not trying to hate on Wolverine - I often defend him when I see random backlash going on.

But seriously? It's bad writing in my opinion.

yeah, I think it is a bad idea making Logan immortal...he shouldn't be that powerful..it actually hurts the character

just like Batman wouldnt be batman if you gave him superpowers

Originally posted by masterbruce
yeah, I think it is a bad idea making Logan immortal...he shouldn't be that powerful..it actually hurts the character

just like Batman wouldnt be batman if you gave him superpowers

Honestly? I wouldn't mind Logan being immortal if they had a better explanation for it.

If it was some kind of further mutation, or it was explained by some sort of advanced power, or some such?

Fine.

But Logan coming back from the dead cause he feels like it? Which is, pretty much, what it amounts to?

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Originally posted by Soljer
Honestly? I wouldn't mind Logan being immortal if they had a better explanation for it.

If it was some kind of further mutation, or it was explained by some sort of advanced power, or some such?

Fine.

But Logan coming back from the dead cause he feels like it? Which is, pretty much, what it amounts to?

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Originally posted by Soljer
Honestly? I wouldn't mind Logan being immortal if they had a better explanation for it.

If it was some kind of further mutation, or it was explained by some sort of advanced power, or some such?

Fine.

But Logan coming back from the dead cause he feels like it? Which is, pretty much, what it amounts to?

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I actually have a theory as to how that can work. The way I see it, him coming back to life, is like him getting re-incarnated. Now, in the Gehenna Stone Affair, it was HEAVILY implied that Wolverine is the re-incarnation of an ancient warrior known as the Hand of God. In chapter 16 of the novel Weapon X, it is flat out stated that Wolverine has been re-incarnated countless times, each as a warrior of some sort. One of those re-incarnations is called the Hand of God, so those two tie into each other.
The other necessary piece of evidence for my theory is when Wolverine regenerated from a drop of blood. He stated then, that the reason he regenerated was because the crystal had provided his healing factor with enough energy. Elsewhere, it has been stated that his healing factor needs protein (a source of energy) to run.
Ok, so now that I've provided my evidence, here's the actual theory. When Wolverine dies, he has a choice, between whether to go to eternal rest, or whether to be re-incarnated. When he chooses to be re-incarnated, he generally enters another body to do so. However, now that his current body has a healing factor, he gets sent back to his body, and the energy of his soul entering his body, powers the healing factor to temporarily ridiculous heights.

Originally posted by Ize19
I actually have a theory as to how that can work. The way I see it, him coming back to life, is like him getting re-incarnated. Now, in the Gehenna Stone Affair, it was HEAVILY implied that Wolverine is the re-incarnation of an ancient warrior known as the Hand of God. In chapter 16 of the novel Weapon X, it is flat out stated that Wolverine has been re-incarnated countless times, each as a warrior of some sort. One of those re-incarnations is called the Hand of God, so those two tie into each other.
The other necessary piece of evidence for my theory is when Wolverine regenerated from a drop of blood. He stated then, that the reason he regenerated was because the crystal had provided his healing factor with enough energy. Elsewhere, it has been stated that his healing factor needs protein (a source of energy) to run.
Ok, so now that I've provided my evidence, here's the actual theory. When Wolverine dies, he has a choice, between whether to go to eternal rest, or whether to be re-incarnated. When he chooses to be re-incarnated, he generally enters another body to do so. However, now that his current body has a healing factor, he gets sent back to his body, and the energy of his soul entering his body, powers the healing factor to temporarily ridiculous heights.

So when all is said and done Wolverine is the only character in all of marvel that can choose whether he lives or dies. NIce!
So I guess its safe to say that Wolverine has the greatest ealing factor in all of Marvel.

Originally posted by Ize19
I actually have a theory as to how that can work. The way I see it, him coming back to life, is like him getting re-incarnated. Now, in the Gehenna Stone Affair, it was HEAVILY implied that Wolverine is the re-incarnation of an ancient warrior known as the Hand of God. In chapter 16 of the novel Weapon X, it is flat out stated that Wolverine has been re-incarnated countless times, each as a warrior of some sort. One of those re-incarnations is called the Hand of God, so those two tie into each other.
The other necessary piece of evidence for my theory is when Wolverine regenerated from a drop of blood. He stated then, that the reason he regenerated was because the crystal had provided his healing factor with enough energy. Elsewhere, it has been stated that his healing factor needs protein (a source of energy) to run.
Ok, so now that I've provided my evidence, here's the actual theory. When Wolverine dies, he has a choice, between whether to go to eternal rest, or whether to be re-incarnated. When he chooses to be re-incarnated, he generally enters another body to do so. However, now that his current body has a healing factor, he gets sent back to his body, and the energy of his soul entering his body, powers the healing factor to temporarily ridiculous heights.

I think that's a fantastic theory. One that you've backed up with actual comic evidence. I applaud you.

But till what you just described is in a comic that says "Marvel" on the front of it?

It's still shit writing. 😐.