Good job with the scans Utrigita, but I still say he goes down, remembert his is not Thor vs. Tyrant, Odin is one of the weakest links on the team. Tyrant with have to fight through these guys and I don't see it happening.
I mean Tyrant beat about 6 Herald level guys at once. That is realy imressive, but given the way Odin treated surfer like nothing, I don't see how that is very impressive.
Honestly, i think tyrants power level at "full power" is speculation. But i would say that his peak power is still less than a normally fed Galactus, since Galactus has beaten tyrant in the past. all these guys on the team is capable of destroying galaxies pretty easilly. Tyrant as well can.
But the over wellming numbers give the team the advantage.
Originally posted by Utrigita
He warped away 6 heralds in his current form without any problems now Odin one that is a difference and thanks.
Odon smacked the strongest of those 6 away like nothing, without even moving from the shot. The 6 herald level beings attacked T one on one and his disposed of them. I see no reason Odin couldn't do the same. And once again Odin is perhaps the weakest link here.
There is simply too much power for him to take.
Also in theory doesn't he tire and lose energy. I don't think any of the Gods really tire or have limits on their energy sources.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Odon smacked the strongest of those 6 away like nothing, without even moving from the shot. The 6 herald level beings attacked T one on one and his disposed of them. I see no reason Odin couldn't do the same. And once again Odin is perhaps the weakest link here.There is simply too much power for him to take.
Also in theory doesn't he tire and lose energy. I don't think any of the Gods really tire or have limits on their energy sources.
And Tyrant did so too times 6, I realise that we are talking about powerful beings but they doesn't possesses those weapons that makes them so damn strong, Destroyer with Odin-sword, Surter with Twilight and so on. As said before if they had those items then yes they would win but without those items there chances are very limited.
And again we are not talking about the heralds we are talking about a being that ruled a entire cosmos build and empire destroyed entire galaxies in the process of suppressing races to his will. Galactus being the only being that could stop him that says something for his abilities.
And like his creator Tyrant will never run out of energy he feast direct on the energy of planetary biospheres, and this is every planet in existence. So unless they begin to destroy the entire universe team 1 will have the fight of there lives on there hands, perhaps I should mention that the only thing that was capable of killing Tyrant was the UN, and none of the above possesses that range of power.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And like his creator Tyrant will never run out of energy he feast direct on the energy of planetary biospheres, and this is every planet in existence. So unless they begin to destroy the entire universe team 1 will have the fight of there lives on there hands, perhaps I should mention that the only thing that was capable of killing Tyrant was the UN, and none of the above possesses that range of power.
G can run out of energy. Do you think Surtur is going to sit there and let him feed or something? Thanos was able to leech his power, why can't any of these guys?
If they only thing capable of killing Tyrant was the UN Tyrant would be above Eternity and all sorts of beings that would kill him with a thought. That is a completely false statement.
Wasn't the main advantage in that fight (the one where Morg got the UN) that Tyrant had, his ability to meld with machines and computers and such. I haven't read the issues in a while, but I seem to remember it playing a large roll in G's problems with him. Mystical beings don't have mechanics to screw with. Even the Destroyer isn't a machine per se.
i think the team obliterates tyrant without much effort...
didnt tyrant have trouble with thanos???
i think if they all just animated the destroyer (making it grow in size) and give it the odin sword would be a fairly even match.
can anybody provide proof that galactus is on celestial level (cannon proof???)????
odin has said he repelled Galactus (on his own). not actually showing it on panel, but he was telling the story that he did do it.
this is uneven if you ask me.
The UN was brought in my Morg yes because Galactus was going down against Tyrant because of Tyrant using his power over machines to absorb Galactus energy from him. And yes Galactus runs out of power but nothing implicates that this also count for Tyrant because he never has.
The reason Thanos had problems with Tyrant was because Thanos had stolen a orb containing some of tyrant power, which he used against him, and thanos after the battle said that he wouldn't have survived another confrontation with Tyrant. (this orb is used after the depowering done by Galactus he didn't need them before so in this battle he doesn't either since this is his full form)
If Odin was capable of repelling Galactus on his own then why comes he along with two other skyfathers having literally no chance against a single celestial ? 😖
I can easily show that Odin in no way what so ever can beat Galactus, and Odin saying that he repelled Galactus is the same as mephisto saying that none could beat him in his own realm which has been done some times. and if you would like canon prof I can ask you a simple question is the celestials capable of time-travel, can they teleport a entire Galaxy across space and time no they cannot at a maximum they can teleport a solarsystem
I can provide that to a simple extent of Galactus power was to recreate Zenn-la in every detail the resurrection was so complete that the watchers nor the celestials noticed anything, I think that speaks perhaps just a little about Galactus powers being capable of fooling this so "mighty" race.
And yes it is uneven Tyrant takes it all to easy. Because as mentioned again this is not the Tyrant that had problems with Thanos, this is the Tyrant that did go toe on toe with Galactus, and none of team one possesses the items that really makes them strong els I think the hoster would have said so.
Originally posted by Utrigita
The UN was brought in my Morg yes because Galactus was going down against Tyrant because of Tyrant using his power over machines to absorb Galactus energy from him. And yes Galactus runs out of power but nothing implicates that this also count for Tyrant because he never has.The reason Thanos had problems with Tyrant was because Thanos had stolen a orb containing some of tyrant power, which he used against him, and thanos after the battle said that he wouldn't have survived another confrontation with Tyrant. (this orb is used after the depowering done by Galactus he didn't need them before so in this battle he doesn't either since this is his full form)
If Odin was capable of repelling Galactus on his own then why comes he along with two other skyfathers having literally no chance against a single celestial ? 😖
I can easily show that Odin in no way what so ever can beat Galactus, and Odin saying that he repelled Galactus is the same as mephisto saying that none could beat him in his own realm which has been done some times. and if you would like canon prof I can ask you a simple question is the celestials capable of time-travel, can they teleport a entire Galaxy across space and time no they cannot at a maximum they can teleport a solarsystem
I can provide that to a simple extent of Galactus power was to recreate Zenn-la in every detail the resurrection was so complete that the watchers nor the celestials noticed anything, I think that speaks perhaps just a little about Galactus powers being capable of fooling this so "mighty" race.
And yes it is uneven Tyrant takes it all to easy. Because as mentioned again this is not the Tyrant that had problems with Thanos, this is the Tyrant that did go toe on toe with Galactus, and none of team one possesses the items that really makes them strong els I think the hoster would have said so.
Celestial/Galactus connection. 🙂
Originally posted by Utrigita
If Odin was capable of repelling Galactus on his own then why comes he along with two other skyfathers having literally no chance against a single celestial ? 😖
because i believe a single celestial to be more powerful than galactus...
Originally posted by Utrigita
I can easily show that Odin in no way what so ever can beat Galactus,
then show me...
Originally posted by Utrigita
and Odin saying that he repelled Galactus is the same as mephisto saying that none could beat him in his own realm which has been done some times.
not exactly... mephisto is a deciever... also odin didnt say what state galactus was in. he could have been depleted of power. but i still believe odin capable of repelling him (stopping him from eating asgard).
Originally posted by Utrigita
and if you would like canon prof I can ask you a simple question is the celestials capable of time-travel, can they teleport a entire Galaxy across space and time no they cannot at a maximum they can teleport a solarsystem
i believe they can do that.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I can provide that to a simple extent of Galactus power was to recreate Zenn-la in every detail the resurrection was so complete that the watchers nor the celestials noticed anything, I think that speaks perhaps just a little about Galactus powers being capable of fooling this so "mighty" race.
fooling somebody doesnt put you on a level of power with that being/person. what issue did these things happen in???
Originally posted by Utrigita
And yes it is uneven Tyrant takes it all to easy. Because as mentioned again this is not the Tyrant that had problems with Thanos, this is the Tyrant that did go toe on toe with Galactus, and none of team one possesses the items that really makes them strong els I think the hoster would have said so.
i think you are a little "off". lol. tyrant isnt that powerful compared to everybody on the team. i say they easily dwarf him in power. to each his own.
Originally posted by KillAll
because i believe a single celestial to be more powerful than galactus...then show me...
not exactly... mephisto is a deciever... also odin didnt say what state galactus was in. he could have been depleted of power. but i still believe odin capable of repelling him (stopping him from eating asgard).
i believe they can do that.
fooling somebody doesnt put you on a level of power with that being/person. what issue did these things happen in???
i think you are a little "off". lol. tyrant isnt that powerful compared to everybody on the team. i say they easily dwarf him in power. to each his own.
Odin cannot create sentient life from nothing, (Cosmic Powers Unlimited #2) resurrect the dead, (Silver Surfer vol. 3 #76) manipulate mortal souls (Silver Surfer vol. 3 #49) and remake dead worlds—including their populations—in every detail (Silver Surfer vol. 3 #130) Galactus can and the day you can show me Odin teleporting a Galaxy across time and space, piercing Thanos forcefield with pratically no effort then I will take into consideration that Odin can do anything And when did Galactus attempt to devour Asgard, as far as I know it has only happen in a MC2 serie and there he succeded.
And depletted stat yes nearly everyone can beat Galactus when he is starving.
You BELIEVE they and so do I but right now we are talking ONE CELESTIAL vs GALACTUS, and can Galactus can teleport a Galaxy yes he can (Rom the Space Knight #27)
Issue has been mentioned, and yes in this particular question I makes indeed a difference the Celestial moves from world to world judging on the way but still they couldn't feel that a change had happen to Zenn-la.
And what are we talking about in the team, a old man, thor with his rune is strong yes, Surtur without his sword isn't that strong, Ymir a frost gigant wow, destroyer wow it was strong against the celestials animated by all the asgardiens and still its disentegration beam had no effect.
Desak a godkiller impressiv but this god isn't gona fit in this prophy room.
Again if they had the damm item they would win but they doesn't, they get kicked badly.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And what are we talking about in the team, a old man, thor with his rune is strong yes, Surtur without his sword isn't that strong, Ymir a frost gigant wow, destroyer wow it was strong against the celestials animated by all the asgardiens and still its disentegration beam had no effect.
Desak a godkiller impressiv but this god isn't gona fit in this prophy room.
"Ymir a frost giant wow" the dude is kinda a beast.
Also you keep talking about how Celestials can't time travel, or teleport and therefore are lower? Why is that? SS can create life, and time travel, so SS>Celestials.
In the IG the Celestials were literally throwing planets at Thanos with their powers. They literally lines up dozens of planets and threw then at him. I have never seen G do this.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
"Ymir a frost giant wow" the dude is kinda a beast.Also you keep talking about how Celestials can't time travel, or teleport and therefore are lower? Why is that? SS can create life, and time travel, so SS>Celestials.
In the IG the Celestials were literally throwing planets at Thanos with their powers. They literally lines up dozens of planets and threw then at him. I have never seen G do this.
I am not talking about time travel I am talking about teleporting entire galaxies across space and time some difference.
And when have the Surfer ever created life from nothingness like Galactus did, and return the dead to life, if so give me a reference.
No but I haven't seen one Celestial destroying three solar systems like that SNAP like Galactus did in Annihulus 6#. And just again Galactus was described as being "the most powerful being in the universe" in Annihilation: Silver Surfer #2.
And why didn't Galactus do that because he had already gone down and I don't think he liked the idear of destroying planets that could sustain him just a thought.
Now you say Ymir is a beast, but apparenty you won't recknice Tyrant being one hmmm 😖
Originally posted by Utrigita
I am not talking about time travel I am talking about teleporting entire galaxies across space and time some difference.And when have the Surfer ever created life from nothingness like Galactus did, and return the dead to life, if so give me a reference.
No but I haven't seen one Celestial destroying three solar systems like that SNAP like Galactus did in Annihulus 6#. And just again Galactus was described as being "the most powerful being in the universe" in Annihilation: Silver Surfer #2.
And why didn't Galactus do that because he had already gone down and I don't think he liked the idear of destroying planets that could sustain him just a thought.
Now you say Ymir is a beast, but apparenty you won't recknice Tyrant being one hmmm 😖
Thanos can teleport, is he higher than Celestials? My point was that it doesn't matter.
SS has given life to an entire planet, I don't have the scans, but they are in the respect thread.
Also Galactus being described as "the most powerful being in the universe" doesn't carry to much weight. A&T were described as each being of equal power to Galctus, so that pretty much cancels it out.
Odin says G triend to consume asgard, and he turned him away. I know he was supposedly "hungry" but still. Surtur has proven to be more of a challenge.
And What if Odin steals some of Tyrant's power bubbles?
At no point am I doubting Tyrant's power, there is no shame in going down to this group.
Also I haven't seen Celestials destroy several solar systems, this is true, but Odin is said to have destroyed galaxies. More importantly, we keep using Galactus as a reference, but Galactus>Tyrant.