Spiderman versus Sabretooth

Started by jinzin29 pages
jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, not saying that but you guys are like:

You just implied it..
you equated our reasoning for thinkin Sabes can take Spidey applies to Sabretooth vs. WWH.. You didn't have to say it.

Originally posted by masterbruce
sabes don't even take damage from maestro hulk, marvel, blah blah

Didn't say that, what I said was that Hulk failed to snap hisneck with punches which is true.

Originally posted by masterbruce
sabes is a one hit killer machine

which he is.

Originally posted by masterbruce
sabes is faster than spiderman

that sounds pretty impressive to me


I think what we said was that Spiderman's not faster than Sabretooth, not that he's definitely faster.. which isn't really THAT impressive, most street levelsare damn near as fast as Spidey, it only makes sense that someone as strong as Spiderman's rogues and as skilled as Sabes would be faster.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
spiderman was landing hits because Morlun didn't need to dodge. he took all his hits like nothing.

he certainly seemed stronger than a 24 tonner (where'd you get that from?)


it straight in the hand book hell. he does not even have a feat that puts him at that level.

You say he dident need to dodge? Then how do you know he simply could nto dodge? Also eh ahs no feats that suggest he even the same speed as spiderman elt a lone faster in term of combat.

So no he slower then spiderman in combat speed unless you have prove

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No he wasent actaully. he wasent even as fast as spiderman in comabt speed. Spiderman was landing hit after hit.

no he actaully slower.

He mroe durable big deal and his durability was nothing overly impressive. it was all blunt force never cutting force..........

way stronger Nope he was only 24 tonner buddy boy so pelase try again.

Man you just love talking out your ass. The more you talk the bigger the whole you dig for your self.

i agree wit some things you say but not some. for one you dont have to insult bruce to get your point across. alot of the hits spidy landed cause morlun did not fight back he is atleast spidy's equal in combat speed. your right about durability and we never really knew the extent of his strength but i would put him in class 30 the way he casually walked through some concrete and steel walls

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
"Though lacking in directed training, Spider-Man is one of the most experienced superheroes in the Marvel Universe. He has worked with virtually everyone in the superhero community at one time or another. Due to this experience, he has beaten foes with far greater powers and abilities. His fighting style is purely freestyle, which incorporates his speed, agility, strength and spider-sense. A very large part of his combat ability is improvisation and using his wits to out-think his opponents. One constant is his habit of using jokes, puns and insults. This not only causes his adversaries to become angry and distracted, but it also helps Spider-Man deal with any fears or doubts that he might have during a battle."

And yet you said that him cracking jokes while fighting sabretooth was because he wasn't taking the fight seriously earlier.. you're contradictions are all over the place in this thread.. It's embarassing.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
he might be fighting more, but quantity isn't everything.

if I play against 6 yr olds in bball everyday for 20 years and you play against nba players for 1 year, you could prob whoop my ass.

My point is that spiderman has faced alot more variety than sabes has


no hasent actaully/ Sabertooth has been trained in countless styels of combat. Been in countless different battles ranging from h2h combat to weapons combat. To fighting on moving vehicals to versing meta humans.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
he might be fighting more, but quantity isn't everything.

if I play against 6 yr olds in bball everyday for 20 years and you play against nba players for 1 year, you could prob whoop my ass.

My point is that spiderman has faced alot more variety than sabes has

yes and no. In terms of fighting superpowered beings their experience is about the same sabes just has that extra umf that puts him over the top with all the years prior that's why i said his total xp is greater than spidy's

masterbruce Senior Member
Originally posted by jinzin
And yet you said that him cracking jokes while fighting sabretooth was because he wasn't taking the fight seriously earlier.. you're contradictions are all over the place in this thread.. It's embarassing.

there is no contradiction....he jokes sometimes to deal with his confidence, but doesn't mean everytime he's joking he's worried

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by lando005
nobody is saying sabertooth is crappy, and at the same time yes while there are many spider villains like scorpion who dont got much in the way of brains there are many who are down right lethal nomatter who is facing them like osborn doc ock and venom. While peter doesnt have the skill and training like sabertooth he does have the experiance he's been fighting other super powered beings just about as long when you think about it both wolverine and sabertooth although much older really didnt have any real superpowered throwdowns like they do now not in comparison. Also spidy is one of the most adaptable people around yes he knows he cant put sabertooth down for long with physical blows but really more often than not spidy outwits his foes for the win not just brain dead foes either

but as i was saying yes you are right for this match up sabertooth should win the majority 6/10

Not true.. Sabretooth was fightig super powered soviets when Spiderman was a chile, Since Loebs latest arc it could be even longer than that, not to mention the fact that Sabretooth was also tackling a man of Cyber's calibur back in the early 1900's... 😬

Spiderman doesn't have any plot devices here to use to outwit Sabretooth.. It's an arena setting... Spiderman's suited to lose this. not the other way around.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by lando005
i agree wit some things you say but not some. for one you dont have to insult bruce to get your point across. alot of the hits spidy landed cause morlun did not fight back he is atleast spidy's equal in combat speed. your right about durability and we never really knew the extent of his strength but i would put him in class 30 the way he casually walked through some concrete and steel walls

he may nto of cared he was getting hit, but ther eis nothign to suggest he was spidermans level. Spiderman wa sland many more hits then morlun was and at points wer emorlun really did not look like ehw anted to be hit.

Your welcome to try and prove he as fast, but u will fail.

I pritty sure he was stated to be 24 tons.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Originally posted by masterbruce
he might be fighting more, but quantity isn't everything.

if I play against 6 yr olds in bball everyday for 20 years and you play against nba players for 1 year, you could prob whoop my ass.

My point is that spiderman has faced alot more variety than sabes has

Totally. Sabretooth only fights pussies like the X-Men (who are all a bunch of one-note losers with no variety in their powers) whereas Spider-man fights totally awesome super bad-asses like the Vulture, the Enforcers, Shocker, and Hammerhead!

Am I right?

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
there is no contradiction....he jokes sometimes to deal with his confidence, but doesn't mean everytime he's joking he's worried

There's a huge contradiction, you can' have it both ways like that and declare when he's acting one way and when he's not when it's not stated either way..

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by lando005
yes and no. In terms of fighting superpowered beings their experience is about the same sabes just has that extra umf that puts him over the top with all the years prior that's why i said his total xp is greater than spidy's

They fought super humans before spiderman was even born..........

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Totally. Sabretooth only fights pussies like the X-Men (who are all a bunch of one-note losers with no variety in their powers) whereas Spider-man fights totally awesome super bad-asses like the Vulture, the Enforcers, Shocker, and Hammerhead!

Am I right?


😆

that was a nice chuckle. thanks srank.

masterbruce Senior Member

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Totally. Sabretooth only fights pussies like the X-Men (who are all a bunch of one-note losers with no variety in their powers) whereas Spider-man fights totally awesome super bad-asses like the Vulture, the Enforcers, Shocker, and Hammerhead!

Am I right?

right on, Sabes always beats and embarrasses the the X-Men whereas Spiderman always loses to harmless fools like Carnage, Venom, and Morlun!

masterbruce Senior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
😆

that was a nice chuckle. thanks soljer.

are you deliberately avoiding whether Morlun could rape Sabes?

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
right on, Sabes always beats and embarrasses the the X-Men whereas Spiderman always loses to harmless fools like Carnage, Venom, and Morlun!

actaully he gets pwned by those gusy unless a plot device coems out.......which normally involves venom and or carnage acting like idiots or getting a power desgned to take out morlun.

Morlun not even that tough Logan has a rouge that is morlun on steriods.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
Not true.. Sabretooth was fightig super powered soviets when Spiderman was a chile, Since Loebs latest arc it could be even longer than that, not to mention the fact that Sabretooth was also tackling a man of Cyber's calibur back in the early 1900's... 😬

Spiderman doesn't have any plot devices here to use to outwit Sabretooth.. It's an arena setting... Spiderman's suited to lose this. not the other way around.

I know he fought some meta humans back then but clearly not alot in comparison to the age of heroes. Any extra years he has fighting superhumans then is kinda trivial compared to the xp he has now that's why i said they were about equal in that regard

and yes i agreed with u for this fight spiderman would loose

Battlehammer Senior Member

lol jinzin said soljer first then edited to srank lol

masterbruce Senior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully he gets pwned by those gusy unless a plot device coems out.......which normally involves venom and or carnage acting like idiots or getting a power desgned to take out morlun.

Morlun not even that tough Logan has a rouge that is morlun on steriods.

Morlun would kill Sabes....I think Jinzin is avoiding the issue for some reason.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
Morlun would kill Sabes....I think Jinzin is avoiding the issue for some reason.

Morlun woudl get rapped.

Hell please open up the wolverien vs morlun thread i lvoe to make you look foolish on the matter.

Morlun ahs a rouge that is morlun but far more powerful............