Superman Prime Gauntlet

Started by masterbruce5 pages
Originally posted by qqqqqqq
so you rate him above ion?

in all likelihood yes.

think of it this way.

Ion and Parallax represent the final level of a GL.

Superman Prime represents the final level of Superman.

Superman is far more important in DC than GL is.

Originally posted by masterbruce
its not my opinion its logical deduction

darkseid can't remove our superman with OE

Superman prime will not be effected by Parallax, he is above Parallax in importance to the universal order...in fact, he may be above Spectre in importance


The biggest problem with speculation is that it can easily be flipped on you.

For instance, I could speculate that the reason that current Supes is so important to the DCU, is because eventually he's supposed to beat Solaris. That would mean that after prime beat Solaris his purpose was served, and he was no longer essential to the universe anymore. So not only would the OE be able to take him out, he wouldn't be anymore important than Beast Boy as far as the Source was concerned.

That's why we debate using facts and not speculation, to keep all of those "maybe's" and "might's" under control.

Originally posted by Soljer
And via your method of reading between the lines, one could interpret ANY character to be on ANY level we wanted to. J.J. Jameson must be multiversal level....

if JJ Jameson one day defeats Galactus in one panel with a smile on his face, then it wouldnt be unfair to suggest he has the power of a multiversal level

Originally posted by masterbruce
you must not know how to count. and how many onpanel feats does God have?
God has killed/eaten Michael himself, and banished Spectre away like a b*tch on panel:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1512/spectre6101fq0.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6717/spectre6102do2.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2651/spectre6103iz7.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4032/spectre6104vw0.jpg

God's feats>>>>>>SMP's doped

Originally posted by masterbruce
if JJ Jameson one day defeats Galactus in one panel with a smile on his face, then it wouldnt be unfair to suggest he has the power of a multiversal level

Give him the last Green Lantern ring, and a hack team of writers, and he'd do it without blinking.

if i'm not wrong, prime failed to save a dimension from collapsing

Originally posted by Galan007
😆 That's pure speculation.

Even if we use that opinion......

Parallax>>A Universe

SMP doesn't get past #1

Surely it's speculation, we have to few feats of him, didn't I mentioned that, I did, right? 😉
And don't forget, the Universe thing worked differently back then.
When yo have just one Universe in Comic continuity you can only destroy one, when 10 years later DC decides to make an Multiverse from it's core Univers you can start destroying Multiverses.
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It does matter when a feat happend.
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See it this way; Anti-Monitor destroyed all Planes of reality of one Universe, except 5, if the story would have taken place in an Omniverse he would destroy all Megaverses except 5.
And SoS-Superman's feat was maybe the greatest feat of an DC Superheroe before the recton 😉.

BTW Solaris seemed about Galactus Level, or beyond 😉. And why should you destroy something with you real power if something inferior can achieve this feat too (When I can shoot someone with a Gun, why should I use an A-Bomb 😄), the GL ring I mean, however it shows his incredible Willpower 😉.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
And SoS-Superman's feat was maybe the greatest feat of an DC Superheroe before the recton 😉.
PC Superman has no feats with the Sword.

Superman couldn't be destroyed by the OE of DS because he is to important to the Universe... That's a fact, since Superman-Prime is the evolution of Superman nothing changes there.
KC-Superman has absorbed enough Solar Energy to be immune to Kryptonite, this may be an Elseworldtale but since KC-Superman appeared in the "normal" DC Universe we can assume that both Kryptonians evolve the same way. Means Superman-Prime is beyond the evolutionpoint of KC-Superman.
Alexander Luthor stated that everything comes from Superman.... <--- means DCs number 1.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman couldn't be destroyed by the OE of DS because he is to important to the Universe... That's a fact, since Superman-Prime is the evolution of Superman nothing changes there.
KC-Superman has absorbed enough Solar Energy to be immune to Kryptonite, this may be an Elseworldtale but since KC-Superman appeared in the "normal" DC Universe we can assume that both Kryptonians evolve the same way. Means Superman-Prime is beyond the evolutionpoint of KC-Superman.
Alexander Luthor stated that everything comes from Superman.... <--- means DCs number 1.
Parallax is able to erase all time-lines throughout the Universe via entropy rift.

This means Parallax can destroy everything that has, does, or will ever exist (inc. Supes).

Again, SMP doesn't make it past #1.

Originally posted by Galan007

Again, SMP doesn't make it past #1.

You really dont like Prime do you. You always think so little of him.

Originally posted by masterbruce
You really dont like Prime do you. You always think so little of him.
I'm not saying that SMP cannot beat Parallax because I don't like him. I am simply not basing my decision on opinion.

Instead I'm basing my decision on panel feats/evidence, (which is how it should always be)

Parallax is able to destroy all time-lines throughout the Universe, utterly wiping the Universe from ever existing.

SMP has no feats that lead me to believe he would even challenge Parallax in a one on one battle.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not saying that SMP cannot beat Parallax because I don't like him. I am simply not basing my decision on opinion.

Instead I'm basing my decision on panel feats/evidence, (which is how it should always be)

Parallax is able to destroy all time-lines throughout the Universe, utterly wiping the Universe from ever existing.

SMP has no feats that lead me to believe he would even challenge Parallax in a one on one battle.

Parallax destroying universes and timelines should have no effect on Prime.

Prime has no impressive feats???!!! How about defeating a wellfed Galactus in one panel with a smile, I call that impressive, maybe thats just me.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Parallax destroying universes and timelines should have no effect on Prime.
After Parallax uses the entropy rift, erasing all time-lines in the Universe........ Nothing will have ever existed.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Prime has no impressive feats???!!! How about defeating a wellfed Galactus in one panel with a smile, I call that impressive, maybe thats just me.
You honestly think Solaris = A well fed Galactus? 😆

No wonder you think SMP is so damn impressive. 🙄

Originally posted by Galan007
After Parallax uses the entropy rift, erasing [b]all time-lines in the Universe........ Nothing will have ever existed.

You honestly think Solaris = A well fed Galactus? 😆

No wonder you think SMP is so damn impressive. 🙄 [/B]

nothing will have existed...hmmm....so spectre's gone, and also parallax himself is gone since nothing will have existed, hence no parallax.

I think Solaris is a far greater threat to the 853rd century universe than Galactus ever was to Marvel earth. This means even more when you consider that the superheroes of 853 were much more powerful than the heroes of today yet they could do nothing against the impending onslaught of Solaris.

Originally posted by masterbruce
nothing will have existed...hmmm....so spectre's gone, and also parallax himself is gone since nothing will have existed, hence no parallax.
Clearly God and pieces of him (Spectre), would still be intact.

And Parallax is the one controling the power, so clearly he would be unharmed as well.

Time is a play-thing to Parallax. He could use the entropy rift on SMP alone.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I think Solaris is a far greater threat to the 853rd century universe than Galactus ever was to Marvel earth. This means even more when you consider that the superheroes of 853 were much more powerful than the heroes of today yet they could do nothing against the impending onslaught of Solaris.
WOW....... Why do I even try to debate with you? 🙄

Originally posted by masterbruce
nothing will have existed...hmmm....so spectre's gone, and also parallax himself is gone since nothing will have existed, hence no parallax.

I think Solaris is a far greater threat to the 853rd century universe than Galactus ever was to Marvel earth. This means even more when you consider that the superheroes of 853 were much more powerful than the heroes of today yet they could do nothing against the impending onslaught of Solaris.

Solaris is indeed more powerful than Galactus going by the sheer fact that Even Superman 1 million who was far superior under solaris's own power was even unable to defeat him. I stll don't think prime is all that powerful. Superman Prime couldn't even bring lois back. Or who ever that was supposed to be. someone else did that for him.

Originally posted by Galan007

WOW....... Why do I even try to debate with you? 🙄

What makes you think Solaris isn't more powerful than Galactus when he was obviously a greater threat?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Solaris is indeed more powerful than Galactus going by the sheer fact that Even Superman 1 million who was far superior under solaris's own power was even unable to defeat him.
Solaris may be more powerful then a hungry, or as powerful as normal powered Galactus.

But Solaris is in no way more powerful then a "well-fed" Galactus.

Originally posted by masterbruce
What makes you think Solaris isn't more powerful than Galactus when he was obviously a greater threat?
*See the above post* doped