Originally posted by Hercules
Batman: "What do civilians matter to me, MY PARENTS DIED GOD DAMN IT!, I can't hold down a steady relationship, I don't sleep nights, I wear black and I'm deep. Don't you understand, I'M AN EMO!, everyone hating each other and dieing is my idea of heaven!"Or something like that... 😉
... Thats goth not fashion core (emo). 😕
Sure they are equally gay but they still aren't the same thing. 😉
Originally posted by Alfheim
Swedish metal? I love Katatonia, thats Swedish dont know if its gothenburg.Theres even some Emo stuff I like.
I like some stuff that other people would call emo but isn't actually emo. Most people couldn't name an emo band if their life depended on it... especially scene kids who call them selves "emo". Post Hardcore isn't emo damn it! It's Post Hardcore!
Gothenburg metal = melodic death metal 😄
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I like some stuff that other people would call emo but isn't actually emo. Most people couldn't name an emo band if their life depended on it... especially scene kids who call them selves "emo". Post Hardcore isn't emo damn it! It's Post Hardcore!Gothenburg metal = melodic death metal 😄
Yup. Nowadays emo is just a throwaway name relegated to whatever bad the kids are listening to. You'd be surprised how many people have no idea what an emo band is.
Alt rock rules
Originally posted by marvelprince
Bruce wouldn't be anti-reg in the first place. He'd be in Tony Stark's position
No, I don't see that at all.
Bruce may work with authority on a local level, like Gotham City police, but the bigger the body the less trustful he becomes. This is a guy who kept detailed files on all the weaknesses of his JLA teamates, in case they went 'rogue'. He's as suspicious as they come, and he's not revealing his identity to strangers.
Captain Atom would be in Iron Man's place; Superman I think would try to stay neutral. But if he became convinced this is what the American government wanted, eventually he would go along. It's not in his character to be a revolutionary.
Originally posted by roughrider
No, I don't see that at all.
Bruce may work with authority on a local level, like Gotham City police, but the bigger the body the less trustful he becomes. This is a guy who kept detailed files on all the weaknesses of his JLA teamates, in case they went 'rogue'. He's as suspicious as they come, and he's not revealing his identity to strangers.
Captain Atom would be in Iron Man's place; Superman I think would try to stay neutral. But if he became convinced this is what the American government wanted, eventually he would go along. It's not in his character to be a revolutionary.
I was waiting on someone to pick up on this. At first this is how I'd look at it too, but look at Tony Stark's actions and tell me it doesn't ring like Bruce to you? Burce understands the need for superpeople to be regulated and controlled, thats why he's ensured that he has a way to bring any of them down if need be. A situatiuon like Stamford where heroes recklessness are to blame would only strengthen his resolve to make sure these "heroes" are regulated and controlled. The only thing against him siding with the government is the fact that he would be wary of giving the government the kind of information. But alas what happens is that in the end Tony Stark places himself in charge of the heroes id's. This is what I see Batman doing. He'd feel he's the only one who could take charge of such information, cause no one else can be trusted. He wouldn't trust the government, but rather manipulate them and to a certain extent the other heroes in order to not only place proper restrictions on all the heroes but find out things about them like how to stop them if need be.
First and foremost...Batman would be neutral in the entire CW.
No way in hell would Batman work with the likes of The Punisher...much less in a rebellion. Totally agaisn't Batman's ethics to work with someone who shoots criminals. Did Batman ever worked with killers before? Sure, he did, back with the Suicide Squad. Even with their methods he still oppose killing anyone. So throw that one out.
Bruce Wayne working with the Government? Fat chance. Any of you remenber Blind Justice? The only reason he trust the government is if Superman still works for them.
There is only person he would put 100% trust...Gordon or Alfred. No one else.
Batman quitting in the middle of a fight? Nah, he would do the logic and retreat his troops to re-organize.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
First and foremost...Batman would be neutral in the entire CW.No way in hell would Batman work with the likes of The Punisher...much less in a rebellion. Totally agaisn't Batman's ethics to work with someone who shoots criminals. Did Batman ever worked with killers before? Sure, he did, back with the Suicide Squad. Even with their methods he still oppose killing anyone. So throw that one out.
Bruce Wayne working with the Government? Fat chance. Any of you remenber Blind Justice? The only reason he trust the government is if Superman still works for them.
There is only person he would put 100% trust...Gordon or Alfred. No one else.
Batman quitting in the middle of a fight? Nah, he would do the logic and retreat his troops to re-organize.
If he was in Cap's shoes I doubt he would follow all of Cap's actions. No way in hell does he let Punisher join them.
Also I was sure to say that Bruce would be working the government. He agrees with the need to regulate superheroes but doesn't trust anyone else to handle the responsbility. What does he do? Place himself at the top of the structure.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I was waiting on someone to pick up on this. At first this is how I'd look at it too, but look at Tony Stark's actions and tell me it doesn't ring like Bruce to you? Burce understands the need for superpeople to be regulated and controlled, thats why he's ensured that he has a way to bring any of them down if need be. A situatiuon like Stamford where heroes recklessness are to blame would only strengthen his resolve to make sure these "heroes" are regulated and controlled. The only thing against him siding with the government is the fact that he would be wary of giving the government the kind of information. But alas what happens is that in the end Tony Stark places himself in charge of the heroes id's. This is what I see Batman doing. He'd feel he's the only one who could take charge of such information, cause no one else can be trusted. He wouldn't trust the government, but rather manipulate them and to a certain extent the other heroes in order to not only place proper restrictions on all the heroes but find out things about them like how to stop them if need be.
Everything you say sounds plausible. But Bruce would not go as far as Tony.
He'd take the job of watching and regulating other heroes, but wouldn't want to answer to others. He'd want layers and buffers between himself and the administration - maybe even request all communication go through Jim Gordon, as his liason.
I think of Mark Wahlberg's line from THE DEPARTED, when he describes how he deals with outside agencies: "My theory about Feds is, treat 'em like mushrooms. Feed them s**t and keep 'em in the dark." 😂
That's Bruce right there.
Originally posted by roughrider
Everything you say sounds plausible. But Bruce would not go as far as Tony.
He'd take the job of watching and regulating other heroes, but wouldn't want to answer to others. He'd want layers and buffers between himself and the administration - maybe even request all communication go through Jim Gordon, as his liason.
I think of Mark Wahlberg's line from THE DEPARTED, when he describes how he deals with outside agencies: "My theory about Feds is, treat 'em like mushrooms. Feed them s**t and keep 'em in the dark." 😂
That's Bruce right there.
No I agree. Thats why I'm careful to say that he works the government not works for. He merely sees them as a means to an end and that end is his knowledge of the abilities of all registered heroes therefore a means to stop them. He wouldn't make some of the choices Tony made but I can see him being just as ruthless, maybe more manipulative but with the end result (him in charge) being the same