Originally posted by carver9
Rage, I'm not asking you to stay here and debate this. Let me win so that we can end this. I have been debating this same topic with you every time you get online and its debatable if Nul is more powerful than WWH. Hulk just doesnt go walking around with that type of power (WWH) daily.I don't think Thor would do as good as Sentry since Sentry consumed Hulk in a Volcano full of energy while punching him and blasting him. Fighting in character, Thor wouldn't do that and he would most like get the same treatment he is receiving from an eternal currently but probably worse.
Usually I'd just stop posting at this point but I make exceptions for you Carver. If I don't contest your idiocy, it feels like it'll spread like some sort of plague. It's not debatable at all, Nul is intended to be a powered up Green Scar. I wouldn't care if you didn't think it was portrayed accurately but the augmentation was a large part of the story and denying it entirely is ridiculous.
What? Green Scar is the current incarnation.
Thor would do just as good as the Sentry because his just that tough and powerful. A lightning bolt or whatever can replicate the effect of the energy tornado if you want to get specific.
Originally posted by carver9You keep spouting the same crap and interpreting it in any way that supports your stance its really pathetic. ABC logic is your defense that should be a sign to you. Good job leaving out the context by the way 👆
Rulk overpowered an extremely amped Thor and left his a** on the moon. Rulk got completely dominated facing WWH and Rulk was using his powers like never before.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Usually I'd just stop posting at this point but I make exceptions for you Carver. If I don't contest your idiocy, it feels like it'll spread like some sort of plague. It's not debatable at all, Nul is intended to be a powered up Green Scar. I wouldn't care if you didn't think it was portrayed accurately but the augmentation was a large part of the story and denying it entirely is ridiculous.What? Green Scar is the current incarnation.
Thor would do just as good as the Sentry (He could replicate all you mentioned by the way), because his just that tough and powerful.
Man, Hulk's real lucky he had a [b]HUGE
power up, or Thor would have one shotted him like Banner did. [/B]
I never said Nul wasn't intended on being more powerful than Hulk, its the Hulk that you are basing your judgement off of that I don't agree with.
Green Scar doesn't always walk around at his WWH levels.
Thor wouldn't do what Sentry did which is my point. Sentry brought a lot to the table and like I said before, in order for Thor to perform like Sentry did, he would have to fight out of character.
Let me win this before I embarrass you Rage.
Jesus....
I love how Carver clings to Thor's comment in Fear Itself like the gospel...even though Thor still one shot BFR'd an extremely amped Hulk and has beaten the Hulk in the past. Comments are nice and all, but ultimately if past events directly contradict them, they don't mean jack. Even Fraction himself stated that the comment was purposefully meant to be vague: Hulk supporters can (and have) take them at face value that Thor can't and never beat the Hulk (even though he already has) and Thor supporters can view them as Thor baiting Hulk.
A less than 100% Thor who had been beaten up by Odin, imprisoned in Asgard, released back to Earth, got blasted by the Serpent, and had to deal with two amped bricks stood his ground and beat them both.
I hate to imagine if Thor had been at full health and went exotic on their asses.
On topic, Team 1 wins.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said Nul wasn't intended on being more powerful than Hulk, its the Hulk that you are basing your judgement off of that I don't agree with.Green Scar doesn't always walk around at his WWH levels.
Thor wouldn't do what Sentry did which is my point. Sentry brought a lot to the table and like I said before, in order for Thor to perform like Sentry did, he would have to fight out of character.
Let me win this before I embarrass you Rage.
This is not something that's debatable. I'm done indulging you. Green Scar picked up the hammer, right after Pak's arc no less.
Elaborate.
No, Thor would do just as well as the Sentry did. He might not unleash waves of energy, but he doesn't need to. He also won't give Hulk 7 free shots to the face.
Uhuh.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThats context for you 👆
Jesus....I love how Carver clings to Thor's comment in Fear Itself like the gospel...even though Thor still one shot BFR'd an extremely amped Hulk and has beaten the Hulk in the past. Comments are nice and all, but ultimately if past events directly contradict them, they don't mean jack. Even Fraction himself stated that the comment was purposefully meant to be vague: Hulk supporters can (and have) take them at face value that Thor can't and never beat the Hulk (even though he already has) and Thor supporters can view them as Thor baiting Hulk.
A less than 100% Thor who had been beaten up by Odin, imprisoned in Asgard, released back to Earth, got blasted by the Serpent, and had to deal with two amped bricks stood his ground and beat them both.
I hate to imagine if Thor had been at full health and went exotic on their asses.
On topic, Team 1 wins.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is not something that's debatable. I'm done indulging you. Green Scar picked up the hammer, right after Pak's arc no less.Elaborate.
No, Thor would do just as well as the Sentry did. He might not unleash waves of energy, but he doesn't need to. He also won't give Hulk 7 free shots to the face.
Uhuh.
WWH is an amped Hulk as well. Mindless Hulk is an amped Hulk as well. Nul wasn't physically stronger than WWH.
Why do I need to elaborate, you know what I meant.
I disagree.
Originally posted by carver9
WWH is an amped Hulk as well. Mindless Hulk is an amped Hulk as well. Nul wasn't physically stronger than WWH.Why do I need to elaborate, you know what I meant.
I disagree.
That incarnation of the Hulk is the norm now. Just as Merged was the norm later on in PAD's run. Where have you been for the last 5 years?
No, I don't. Why doesn't Green Scar walk around at Green Scar levels? Elaborate.
You disagree? That by definition makes it right.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That incarnation of the Hulk is the norm now. Just as Merged was the norm later on in PAD's run. Where have you been for the last 5 years?No, I don't. Why doesn't Green Scar walk around at Green Scar levels? Elaborate.
You disagree? That by definition makes it right.
You are missing the point. WWH was PISSED...at levels that scared Reed, Strange, Tony...etc. You are correct, current Hulk is green Scar but the level of power are completely different.
My point is, WWH is still around but he isn't dipping into that well of power like he was when he was taking on Earth. Kind of like Savage Hulk...Savage Hulk is still Savage Hulk but that strength can increase to insane levels with just a mood change.
Rage, I don't even know why you are so happy with the showing between Nul and Thor anyways. Nothing didnt happen. Thing attacks Thor, Thor hit Thing off of him...Nul then approaches Thor and sledge hammer him. Nul and Thing charge Thor, Thor calls his hammer to himself which goes through Thing...Nul turns around looking at his damaged partner...Thor then take advantage of this and attack Nul and gets fatigued. He then charge Nul and bfrs him but pass out from ramming Hulks chest.
Are you really proud of that? Really Rage. Come on buddy. That wasn't a good showing for Thor.
Originally posted by carver9
You are missing the point. WWH was PISSED...at levels that scared Reed, Strange, Tony...etc. You are correct, current Hulk is green Scar but the level of power are completely different.
What the hell are you talking about? There's absolutely no indication that Hulk has become weaker since World War Hulk. As a matter of fact, everything points to him being stronger than ever.
Originally posted by carver9
My point is, WWH is still around but he isn't dipping into that well of power like he was when he was taking on Earth. Kind of like Savage Hulk...Savage Hulk is still Savage Hulk but that strength can increase to insane levels with just a mood change.
You don't have a point. There's absolutely no indication that Hulk returned weaker. He consciously chooses not to reach World Breaker levels etc. but that's not what you were implying.
No, the relationship is nothing like Savage Hulk who needs outside stimuli to increase in strength.
Originally posted by carver9
Rage, I don't even know why you are so happy with the showing between Nul and Thor anyways. Nothing didnt happen. Thing attacks Thor, Thor hit Thing off of him...Nul then approaches Thor and sledge hammer him. Nul and Thing charge Thor, Thor calls his hammer to himself which goes through Thing...Nul turns around looking at his damaged partner...Thor then take advantage of this and attack Nul and gets fatigued. He then charge Nul and bfrs him but pass out from ramming Hulks chest.Are you really proud of that? Really Rage. Come on buddy. That wasn't a good showing for Thor.
I don't give a shit if you don't find it impressive (Your description of events could use some work), unless it supports your agenda, there's something wrong with any showing. I'm not going to waste time trying to convince you it was impressive, Thor took on two Elite bricks after going through the Ringer and won. If the tables were reversed, you'd be arguing how Hulk is twice as powerful as Thor or some nonsense.
Anyways like I said, Thor would do just as well as the Sentry. Nul was more powerful than Green Scar.