Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Bu don't both groups believe in God? And strongly?
No... The KKK is the group that seems to include God and Christianity as part of their doctrine, those Neo-Nazi groups who idolise Hitler and see themselves as guardians of his "legacy" are no more religiously aliened or motivated then the original Nazis were (that is while some of the Nazis were Christian, they weren't a religiously motivated organisation.)
And what is the difference? Beyond their history, political aspirations, founding, way they view themselves, the racial groups they have the most hate of, the impact on the societies they crop up in and so forth? Oh, nothing really. As you summed up - just white racists.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Seriously. I mean both groups are all White and all racist. Do they have different ideals of some sort or are they practically the same group of people?Please enlighten?
KKK: American in origin
Nazis: German in origin
KKK: Founded in the 1870's in TN by 6 bitter Dixie officers who wanted to terrorize their newly freed fellow citizens and reinstall slavery.
Nazis: Founded in the 1930's by German nutcases who had an unrealistic dream of an 'Aryan Nation'.
Both: revenge fueled their formation.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
while some of the Nazis were Christian, they weren't a religiously motivated organisation.)
And the Klan is? Just because their members adhere to a religion, doesn't make it "religiously motivated".
imperial samurai it seems like your being sarcastic/ talking down to him but its hard to tell from text lol. I would class them both as racists, I don't care about their ideology, beliefs, history etc they are racist with no just reason to be so and imo don't deserve the slightest bit of credibility.
Originally posted by Magee
imperial samurai it seems like your being sarcastic/ talking down to him but its hard to tell from text lol. I would class them both as racists, I don't care about their ideology, beliefs, history etc they are racist with no just reason to be so and imo don't deserve the slightest bit of credibility.
Oh, that is exactly what I am doing. And I am not saying they aren't racists, nor that they have any credibility.
He asked "what is the difference between them? Aren't they just both racist whites? Certainly - most rational people would stick N. Nazi or KKK pictures next to "stupid hate mongers" in a dictionary (if a dictionary dealt in phrases and not just words.)
However they aren't the same, and thus I mentioned the various areas in which they are different. There are a lot of racists groups out there - different racists groups. Neo-Nazi and KKK are just two sorts.
And the Klan is? Just because their members adhere to a religion, doesn't make it "religiously motivated".
Well the documentary I once saw concerning religious influences within "The Klan" seems to indicate that isn't completely the case - do they have a Bible open in their "ye old club house?" Do they believe they are religiously justified? Do some of them still quote the old "dark savages that need to be brought into the light of God" guff? You know, the "Christians have a duty to enslave blacks because that improves their lives, being heathen savages as they are?"
I wasn't making a comment on Christianity as a whole, or religion as a whole, but the KKK has a religious current in it, and it seems more then a few of them justify their views with religious causes, and that would suggest to me they are at least somewhat motivated by their twisted take of religion.
Re: What's the difference in-between Nazi skinheads and the Klu Klux Klan?
Originally posted by FistOfThe NorthThe difference between Klan members and Skinheads is that one group dresses up as opaque ghosts, and the other group doesn't appreciate the moments they live without male-pattern baldness.
Seriously. I mean both groups are all White and all racist. Do they have different ideals of some sort or are they practically the same group of people?Please enlighten?