Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Only the second one you listed can be taken as any sort of plot device . . .
I was about to make that comment.
A speedblitz may be seen as a cop out, but it's not a plot device.
The Golden Lasso, Mjolnir, a Lantern Ring, the Power Cosmic, THOSE are plot devices.
A healing factor is not.
Unless you want to get into a deeper discussion, in which case EVERYTHING in the story is a plot device. Good, bad, and ugly, NOTHING would be written if not for the plot.
If you understand what I mean.
Re: What is the biggest plot device ever in comics?
Originally posted by Hulk rules allMagic, followed closely by GL Rings.
What is the greatest plot device ever created in comics? Please rate the following from 1 to 9.Mjolnir
Thor's god blast
Wolverine's healing and fighting attributes
Superman's attributes
Silver Surfer's power cosmic
Black Bolt's pseudosonic scream
Mangog's power of a billion beings
Destroyer armor
Iron man's weaponry/techWhat says ya'll?
The Speedforce is a plot device as well.
Healing factors that are unspecified and inconsistent like Wolverine's are plot devices as well. Why? Because the writer uses it to adjust to whatever situation he's writing in. Do we get ko'ed by DD today in one hit, or do we take hits from Hulk multiple times. Do we grow back an eyeball, or do we get a scar from a knife wound?
Oh, and Batman's utility belt.
Re: Re: What is the biggest plot device ever in comics?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Magic, followed closely by GL Rings.The Speedforce is a plot device as well.
Healing factors that are unspecified and inconsistent like Wolverine's are plot devices as well. Why? Because the writer uses it to adjust to whatever situation he's writing in. Do we get ko'ed by DD today in one hit, or do we take hits from Hulk multiple times. Do we grow back an eyeball, or do we get a scar from a knife wound?
Oh, and Batman's utility belt.
I believe Jinzin's covered this before. One of the reason's that Wolverine's healing factor is inconsistent is because it needs energy to run. The major provider of that energy for Wolverine is protein, so, when he's well fed and well rested, and his healing factor hasn't been pushed yet, then it's at it's optimal. The loss of the above factors can drag it down.
Originally posted by Soljer
I was about to make that comment.A speedblitz may be seen as a cop out, but it's not a plot device.
The Golden Lasso, Mjolnir, a Lantern Ring, the Power Cosmic, THOSE are plot devices.
A healing factor is not.
Unless you want to get into a deeper discussion, in which case EVERYTHING in the story is a plot device. Good, bad, and ugly, NOTHING would be written if not for the plot.
If you understand what I mean.
Yah true... I wasn't clear about a cop out if Sups can't beat some, just throw him into the Sun, he wins vs a device like the rope....sorry.
Re: Re: Re: What is the biggest plot device ever in comics?
Originally posted by Ize19And it wouldn't make it so different that it would add 100 tons of force on the receiving end, would it? No, it would make a mild difference. It's inconsistent from writer from writer becase it went up as his popularity grew, AND it's used for whatever plot he's in.
I believe Jinzin's covered this before. One of the reason's that Wolverine's healing factor is inconsistent is because it needs energy to run. The major provider of that energy for Wolverine is protein, so, when he's well fed and well rested, and his healing factor hasn't been pushed yet, then it's at it's optimal. The loss of the above factors can drag it down.
I'm sure they write in the captions. "Wolverine just ko'ed, it's because he didn't eat his vitamins and minerals fans."
That's more of an excuse than anything.
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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And it wouldn't make it so different that it would add 100 tons of force on the receiving end, would it? No, it would make a mild difference. It's inconsistent from writer from writer becase it went up as his popularity grew, AND it's used for whatever plot he's in.I'm sure they write in the captions. "Wolverine just ko'ed, it's because he didn't eat his vitamins and minerals fans."
That's more of an excuse than anything.
In the Terry Adams arc, (where he meets Epsilon Red) Wolverine is dying in the desert, and the "angel" that's with him states that his healing factor needs protein to work. This is confirmed when, after eating some vultures, he manages to completely recover, and even pull off his famous speed feat of blitzing the soldiers and slicing their guns without them even being able to track him.
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Originally posted by Ize19do you have the scans? i would like to see the part where he speed blitz the soldiers
In the Terry Adams arc, (where he meets Epsilon Red) Wolverine is dying in the desert, and the "angel" that's with him states that his healing factor needs protein to work. This is confirmed when, after eating some vultures, he manages to completely recover, and even pull off his famous speed feat of blitzing the soldiers and slicing their guns without them even being able to track him.
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Originally posted by Ize19And that is in an extreme situation in not in every single fight he's been in without one (an explanation). Making it a plot device. Unless you are going to say ALL of his lowest showings are because he's starved?
In the Terry Adams arc, (where he meets Epsilon Red) Wolverine is dying in the desert, and the "angel" that's with him states that his healing factor needs protein to work. This is confirmed when, after eating some vultures, he manages to completely recover, and even pull off his famous speed feat of blitzing the soldiers and slicing their guns without them even being able to track him.