Symbiote Bear Vs. Spiderman

Originally posted by Jyppe
You can't? Where did you get a symbiote from? 😉

Who says the symbiote can't/isn't allowed to switch hosts?

Err...the whole fight is to determine if a symbiote with bear would win over Spider-Man...that would make the whole thing kind of moot. 🤨

Originally posted by Jyppe
Why not? The thread startter says that they're fully bonded. The symbiote could easily control the Bear's actions if it needed to. The bear's mind is very simple, driven by instincts and such, I don't see a problem here.

Fully bonded doesn't mean that it will just suddenly take over it's mind. It never takes over the minds of it's hosts. And like said, symbiote is pretty smart but it is far from being as smart as Spider-Man.

Originally posted by Jyppe
And why the hell not? Even if the bear wouldn't be intelligent, it would defend itself from Spider-man's attacks. Why wouldn't the Bear react at accelerated speeds, why wouldn't it attack faster? Do you think a Bear would hold back? Especially a blood lusted one?

...yeah...it would still fight like a bear. Stupidly. Spider-Man has over 20 years of experience, do you really think that Bear could tag him? Do you think it has anywhere near the skill to do it?

Originally posted by Jyppe
Venom's normally fast enough to tag even a Spider-man with a working spider sense. (See his fight with Reilly)

So? That's EDDIE BROCK Venom. Human and symbiote mind working in unison against the guy they hate the most. No other Venom comes even close at their performance against him. A freaking bear and a symbiote wouldn't really be comparable to them.

It would not be faster then Spider-Man, not as agile in thousand years,

Originally posted by Jyppe
The symbiote is as fast as he is, Venombear only needs one hit in and Spider-man is done for (Unlike Brock Venom, this Venom wouldn't be punching. He'd slash Spidey to pieces.)

Yeah...you haven't obviously read enough Spider-Man comics if you think that one hit would take him down. Or that someone with not-so-intelligent mind could even tag him.

Not current Venom & I'm going to call PIS on that. The symbiote doesn't even bleed red blood. Besides, did it even bother him? Nope.

Originally posted by Jyppe

Uh, what am I supposed to see in here? Venom screaming in pain? All I see is Spider-man getting stunned from Venom's attack.

Ancient 11 tonner Venom. Besides, he was weakened by the amount of webbing he used on the bell cocoon.

Uh, what am I supposed to see here again?

Bit his own tongue? He wasn't looking for a fight with Spider-man anyways.
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In all those scans he was looking for a fight with Spider-Man, it's Eddie Brock Venom in all those scans and Spider-Man was able to damage him in all those scans. Don't know what you mean.

And why wouldn't he bleed red blood? Forgive me but there is still a human inside there...

Originally posted by Jyppe

Now, how about I show the issues where Spider-man's attacks have done NADA to Venom, how about that?

Is Venom Spider-Man's better in most stats? Yeah. Does that mean that Spider-Man isn't able to battle him or hurt him? Hell no.

Spider-Man, especially after all his upgrades and such would be faster and WAY more agile then the bear. He does have enough strength to hurt the bear. The bear, even with the symbiote comes NOWHERE close to the skills or experience of Spider-Man. I see no reason why Spider-Man wouldn't be able to win with ease.

Err...the whole fight is to determine if a symbiote with bear would win over Spider-Man...that would make the whole thing kind of moot.

Ok, I'll give you that, I kinda though they worked as a one.

Fully bonded doesn't mean that it will just suddenly take over it's mind. It never takes over the minds of it's hosts. And like said, symbiote is pretty smart but it is far from being as smart as Spider-Man.

Fully bonded means that they are indeed one, and work as a one. What the hell else is it supposed to mean other than that? What are smarts going to do in this fight?

We've seen the original Venom symbiote to bond with sentient creatures so far, but the Clone did use animals as host and those animals did exactly what the symbiote wanted. Nothing else.

...yeah...it would still fight like a bear. Stupidly. Spider-Man has over 20 years of experience, do you really think that Bear could tag him? Do you think it has anywhere near the skill to do it?

So, you're saying that everytime Spider-man punches/attacks the symbiote bear, the bear wont have time to react? BS. Eddie Brock, a weightlifter, was first amped to Spider-man's stats, then his strenght and other stats grew. He has feats to put him around 25 - 50 tons. Imagine a bear, strenght, speed, durability, & sense vise better being is given the same symbiote and is also fully bonded with it.. Sounds like bad news, eh?

Spider-man isn't unhitable, especially when his spider-sense is negated and he's matched by an opponent who is at least fast as he is, he aint going to dodge all the attacks.

So? That's EDDIE BROCK Venom. Human and symbiote mind working in unison against the guy they hate the most. No other Venom comes even close at their performance against him. A freaking bear and a symbiote wouldn't really be comparable to them.

It would not be faster then Spider-Man, not as agile in thousand years,

Actually, the symbiote takes care of the reflexes & such. As Eddie's mind still works at human speed. This explains why he has been stopping bullets after they've been fired etc.

The thread startter says "fully bonded" - That's what Brock-Venom was..

Yeah...you haven't obviously read enough Spider-Man comics if you think that one hit would take him down. Or that someone with not-so-intelligent mind could even tag him.

So, Spider-man has superman esque durability now? Apparently you've been reading too many Spider-man comics 🙄

Why wouldn't one slash take him down? Especially when those claws of his can be quite sharp. Seriously, if you meet a bear, he swipes/lunges at you. What are the chances of you dodging his attack?

Intelligence wont pay that much IMO, The Bearnom has the ability take plenty of damage from Spider-man, but Spider-man can't take that much from him.

- http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=venom01141vj.jpg

- http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/spideyvsvenom11k0dy.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/spideyvsvenom12f3pq.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/spideyvsvenom12g2gy.jpg

(Notice how nothing affects him during the fight.) There are lot more. I suggest you

In all those scans he was looking for a fight with Spider-Man, it's Eddie Brock Venom in all those scans and Spider-Man was able to damage him in all those scans. Don't know what you mean.

Yeah, okay. He was looking for a fight in those scans, but Venom is also a big victim of CIS. He always plays with Spider-man, and doesn't just instantly try to kill him.

I don't see any damage done to him when Spider-man throws him into the tree. Do you? I don't see any damage done to him when Spider-man punches him and sends him flying. Except for some teeth, but that Venom was quite jaw heavy art wise in the comic too.

You do know that the symbiote has evolved. At first it was just a notch above Spider-man, but nowdays is much more.

And why wouldn't he bleed red blood? Forgive me but there is still a human inside there...

This is apparently the single case when someone drew blood from Venom by simply punching him, correct me if I'm wrong. Many, a lot stronger, beings have tried, & failed.

Besides, it looks like he's bleeding from his gums.

Go ahead. They have always battled for pages, sometimes even for issues, if you honestly think that Spider-Man hasn't never been able to hurt Venom you haven't been looking at their battles close enough.

Ok, let's say he can hurt Venom. But can he deal damage? I don't think so. Venom has a healing factor rivalling that of Wolverine's. Spider-man isn't Koing him either.

Is Venom Spider-Man's better in most stats? Yeah. Does that mean that Spider-Man isn't able to battle him or hurt him? Hell no.

Uh, what would hurting him matter in this fight? Spider-man isn't able to deal permanent damage, and is struck by tireness A LOLT SOONER than Venom. This Venom isn't holding back, jobbing or neither is affected by CIS.

Spider-Man, especially after all his upgrades and such would be faster and WAY more agile then the bear. He does have enough strength to hurt the bear. The bear, even with the symbiote comes NOWHERE close to the skills or experience of Spider-Man. I see no reason why Spider-Man wouldn't be able to win with ease.

Uh, the symbiote has mutated/changed too. It could enhance a mere human to Spider-man's levels easily, now it enhances already faster animal. How the hell do you think Spider-man will be pulling a victory over a bear with fully bonded symbiote (Eddie-esque)? I guess The symbiote doesn't enhance durability, nor add protection or healing factor at all 🙄

The Bear is easily fast enough to hit him. Maybe not evertime, but nonetheless, he'll be hit eventually.

Who do you think is faster Wolverine or classic Spider-man? How come people here are saying Wolverine is able to hit current Spider-man with a working spider-sense, but then you're assuming that Spider-man without his spider sense will be dodging every attack from Bearnom?

Bearnom

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Btw, Darkcrawler. I'm still looking foward to your Spider-man respect thread, and I wish I could help, but I don't own any spider-man comics in digital format.

No hard feelings about anything, governing this silly debate 🙂