Odin vs. Uatu,the watcher

Originally posted by zopzop
@ Mr Master
The Odin/Seth fight is my guess for the multiversal and universal level feats for Odin and the recent Everything Burns arc for another universal level feat.

@Leonidas
It's not looking good for Uatu. The ONLY Watcher I'd put in Odin's league or beyond is Ecce and even that doesn't count because it was an alt reality version of him.

yeah, i tend to agree. there was also a scene in asgard where uatu seemed to defer to odin which always implied to me that odin was above him. uatu vs aaron was one of his better showings, though aaron had some less-than showings as well. i've always said (and this thread has been done umpteen times.....) that odin would win, but uatu has some good implied power so i don't think it would be easy for odin.

According to the LT, I believe "Ezra" is the most powerful Watcher,
supposedly a greater threat than Protege. ... ouch.

Originally posted by zopzop
@ Mr Master

The Odin/Seth fight is my guess for the multiversal and universal
level feats for Odin and the recent Everything Burns arc for another universal level feat.

But during the Seth battle, absolutely nothing happened to the Multiverse,
or to any reality in the multiverse,
or to even a universe for that matter.

They destroyed some dead galaxies and re-ignited some dead suns.

If I'm not mistaken, that's it.

^^ Pardon me yall, there's no such thing as "Ezra."

I meant, "Era," and he's not a Watcher.

Mr master:

strange did mention that it tore the very fabric of the multiverse:

journey into mystery #513, here's the 3 relevant scans (in the 3rd strange mentions the multiverse):

http://i.imgur.com/iVZlvFh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9Umwe0y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/W8Kmjws.jpg

very very high showing for a skyfather

^^ Which means nothing, since Strange also clearly pointed out what was damaged.

... dead galaxies and dead suns.

The "fabric" of the multiverse is the "fabric" of the universe,
that is ... Space-Time!

They were definitely affecting reality I'll give em that,
but it wasn't on a universal scale and definitely not on a multiversal scale.

*edit* The coolest thing they did was the "Shockwave" that was felt
across the multiverse.
It didn't damage the multiverse, or A universe, but it's still impressive.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Odin has "multiversal" feats?

I never knew that. What are you referring too?

Come to think of it, I'd like to even see him affecting an entire Universe.

That's a good question I would like answered myself. And I know plenty about Watchers to who it was that said otherwise. The cosmic beings are so more advanced than the Skyfathers. Hell, I remember from an issue where Vishnu, Odin and another Skyfather which at the time I can't think of, attacked Arishem with their powers combined and failed to even scratch him. With one attack, Arishem had shown the Skyfathers that he could have easily destroyed Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana without breaking a sweat. The look on their faces was priceless. A Skyfather has a better chance at taking out a transcendent, or herald being.

^^i can accept that you know. Personally, im completely against the idea of skyfather being at multiversal levels.

anyways, im going to post uatu scans for everyone who's interested, especially that someone claimed "odin wins with ease"

uatu and aron are the most powerful watchers as far as i can tell.

in fantastic four #400 they had a very impressive battle, aron attacked uatu from a thousand different planes of reality, and their battle was waged across infinite rivers of reality

http://i.imgur.com/FTAijMJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ma4Dgou.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q8rKn8w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/45tdgej.jpg

what if v2 #41 uatu fights galactus in a battle never seen before in the entirety of the multiverse, uatu lost but it's still impressive nonetheless.

http://i.imgur.com/dui6LAp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PrnOuJ4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GdoaZwX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UDAvTan.jpg

[QUOTE=14335665]Originally posted by operator616
[B]^^i can accept that you know. Personally, im completely against the idea of skyfather being at multiversal levels.

anyways, im going to post uatu scans for everyone who's interested, especially that someone claimed "odin wins with ease"

uatu and aron are the most powerful watchers as far as i can tell.

in fantastic four #400 they had a very impressive battle, aron attacked uatu from a thousand different planes of reality, and their battle was waged across infinite rivers of reality

what if v2 #41 uatu fights galactus in a battle never seen before in the entirety of the multiverse, uatu lost but it's still impressive nonetheless.

Outskirts Battle Dome even has Skyfathers marked "Limited reality warping (from planetary through multi - galactic, less than universal) and Galaxy busting powers". Uatu is shown to have Universal destroying capabilities and can control time so efficiently that he can speed up time around an individual turning them into dust. Odin is immortal only in the sense that he no longer ages, but nothing was ever mentioned that I can remember about him possessing chronolock. Who's to say that Uatu couldn't easily reverse time and turn Odin into a baby, or reduce Odin to a skeleton by using his time manipulating ability?

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ Which means nothing, since Strange also clearly pointed out what was damaged.

... dead galaxies and dead suns.

The "fabric" of the multiverse is the "fabric" of the universe,
that is ... Space-Time!

They were definitely affecting reality I'll give em that,
but it wasn't on a universal scale and definitely not on a multiversal scale.

*edit* The coolest thing they did was the "Shockwave" that was felt
across the multiverse.
It didn't damage the multiverse, or A universe, but it's still impressive.

:/

The fabric of the Multiverse. Also, can't simply ignore what you don't like.

Originally posted by Mr Master
*edit* The coolest thing they did was the "Shockwave" that was felt
across the multiverse.
It didn't damage the multiverse, or A universe, but it's still impressive.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

The fabric of the Multiverse. Also, can't simply ignore what you don't like.

Where only some dead galaxies were destroyed
and some dying suns re-ignited.
(there's the scale of space-time they affected)

I can see the multiversal implications there. 😬

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

While I disagree with your stance regarding the "fabric of
multiverse" statement of Strange's, it's good to see that you concede
that the scope of that battle was multiversal at best.

In fact, I clearly pointed out how it wasn't.
The shit didn't even affect a single universe.
So, a shockwave was felt, cool, but it did nothing to the multiverse or even the universe.

Now, when Owen & Beyonder battled,
it was noted how actual realities were being turned upside down,
how reality withIn realities were warped,
and even cosmics like Watchers were getting stomped from the effects.
At the end, we see what the TVA (omniversal Timeline repair co) has to fix.

Odin & Seth = long dead galaxies destroyed, and some suns re-igniting.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The 'fabric of the multiverse" ... which is space-time.

Where only some dead galaxies were destroyed
and some dying suns re-ignited.
(there's the scale of space-time they affected)

I can see the multiversal implications there. 😬

I never said their battle was multiversal.

In fact, I clearly pointed out how it wasn't.
The shit didn't even affect a single universe.
So, a shockwave was felt, cool, but it did nothing to the multiverse or even the universe.

Now, when Owen & Beyonder battled,
it was noted how actual realities were being turned upside down,
how reality withIn realities were warped,
and even cosmics like Watchers were getting stomped from the effects.
At the end, we see what the TVA (omniversal Timeline repair co) has to fix.

Odin & Seth = long dead galaxies destroyed, and some suns re-igniting.

The feat is clear from the narration that it was a mutilversal level battle,

It is YOU who doesn't agree with it but here the Feat stands despite your biased on the subject.

Feel free to bring a mod. in on how the feat should be weighed in at but as far as forum rules go it can't be disbuted

Originally posted by DarkOdin

The feat is clear from the narration that it was a mutilversal level battle,
It is YOU who doesn't agree with it but here the Feat stands despite
your biased on the subject.
Feel free to bring a mod. in on how the feat should be weighed in at
but as far as forum rules go it can't be disbuted

Originally posted by Mr Master

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16022330_Seth_battle.jpg]

This is the final aftermath of "tearing at fabric of the multiverse" 😬

People don't understand what that "fabric" is and unintentionally are mislead to think this means the mulitverse entire,
rather than what the multiverse/universe/galaxies etc are made of: Space-Time.

It was a flowery statement on the writer's part,
but thankfully it was cleared up when we see the extent of the damage:

"long dead galaxies, and dying suns" were affected, nothing else.
When theres BillionS of active galaxies, and untold TrillionS of active suns.

Nice, but hardly even universal, let alone multiversal.

Simple On Panel facts can take care of this bit.

I have the official bio coming in a sec to corroborate my claim.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"bring a mod?" ... my "bias" 😂 ...

Simple On Panel facts can take care of this bit.

I have the official bio coming in a sec to corroborate my claim.

the "muiltverse" statement is in no way about scan you have shown,

Like i said bring a mod in withthe whole battle laid out for a final ruling,

O ggreat offical bio thats just as useless as marvel offical handbook

Uatu still