Sasquatch & Puck vs Strong Guy & Thunderbird

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's what I've always read, too.

And about the slashing of Strong Guy--would that no require kinetic energy to do so?

like I said in the post above, hes listed at 50 but has stated himself in X factor while talking to Val Cooper that he can press 20 tons, which is why I said "by his own admission".

Whether you count that as bad writing is up to you, I have always taken that as Guido admiting his base strength.

Cutting him would create kinetic energy BUT it would also cut him and damage him, hitting him with a fist wouldn't.

blunt force trauma he will just absorb, take no damage and unleash it right back at you, slash him and he takes damage.

Thats what me and Mungi are saying, Sasquatch has claws as well as superior strength.

Originally posted by Hercules
like I said in the post above, hes listed at 50 but has stated himself in X factor while talking to Val Cooper that he can press 20 tons, which is why I said "by his own admission".

Whether you count that as bad writing is up to you, I have always taken that as Guido admiting his base strength.

Cutting him would create kinetic energy BUT it would also cut him and damage him, hitting him with a fist wouldn't.

blunt force trauma he will just absorb, take no damage and unleash it right back at you, slash him and he takes damage.

Thats what me and Mungi are saying, Sasquatch has claws as well as superior strength.

I understand what you're saying about him admitting his own strength, but I'm pretty sure he's been at a base of class 50 for awhile now. Could've been bad writing, could've just been a mistake, I just really doubt that he'd just gotten weaker for no reason, ya know?

Hold on a second, follow me here.

Sas swipes with the claws. Guido absorbs the kinetic energy from the impact of the claws on his skin.

Now, by absorbing the kinetic energy, does he not also near-instantly drain the momentum of the claws? I say yes.

It follows the same principle as Black Panther's vibranium-weave suit. Bullets don't pierce him because the suit robs them of all of their kinetic energy, thus their momentum, near-instantly, so they stop upon contact with the suit.

Same thing goes for Guido. Ergo, claws should not be effective against him.

Well if you compare his powers to Sebastian Shaw, who has similar powers but a much greater degree of control, then Shaw can be cut, not enough to kill him because he does indeed drain most of the blades momentum.

But he can still have his skin pierced, yet Shaw can absorb bullets, so I would say yes he can take damage from Sasquatch's claws.

Plus he can be crushed to death by Sasquatch in a bearhug, just like Shaw can be crushed.

If we say that Sasquatch doesn't know who Guido is (which I think he does) then He will start out pummeling Guido, this will do nothing but make Guido able to hit harder.

It won't take long for the Genius interllect that Walter possess to figure out whats going on, then he will revert to claws and trying to crush the life out of him.

Shaw can be cut and crushed ergo in my mind so can Strong Guy.

Oh that and I just remembered that Cyber cut him when X factor fought Hells belles.

He told Guido his nails were tipped with poison, which they weren't he was bluffing to take Guido out of the fight, so yes he can be cut.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
20 tons? I thought his base strength was 50 tons?

I give team 2 the edge.

What? they have no advantage over team 1 in any area 😕

Originally posted by Hercules
Oh that and I just remembered that Cyber cut him when X factor fought Hells belles.

He told Guido his nails were tipped with poison, which they weren't he was bluffing to take Guido out of the fight, so yes he can be cut.

Just about to bring that up.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What? they have no advantage over team 1 in any area 😕

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Just about to bring that up.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I think team two can win! That's how I see it. Guido can become stronger than Sasquatch.

Cyber also has adamantium claws. I don't think Sasquatch does though.

Hardly, as you would have to ignore the fact Sasquatch can become stronger himself. Plus the fact, Guido doesn't have a good track record against the likes of Sasquatch class. [Professor Hulk]

No, but if your actually implying Guido has a level of durability that only adamintium can cut him then you have another thing coming.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hardly, as you would have to ignore the fact Sasquatch can become stronger himself. Plus the fact, Guido doesn't have a good track record against the likes of Sasquatch class. [Professor Hulk]

No, but if your actually implying Guido has a level of durability that only adamintium can cut him then you have another thing coming.

I am not saying Guido has a level of durabilty that only adamantium can cut him. But Adamantium claws>>>regular claws though.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I would say Guido has a better shot of increasing his strength than Walter does. And I don't think I would put Sasquatch in Hulks class though. He did say that Hulk easily defeated him I think.

I am not saying Guido has a level of durabilty that only adamantium can cut him. But Adamantium claws>>>regular claws though.

What?...Walter transformed into Tanaraq in seconds. Are you actually serious? What again? He battled Hulk for 30 minutes and most of it Sasquatch didn't want to fight as he felt guilty. That was Savage Hulk, not professor. Then there's the fact Sasquatch defeated an alternate reality Savage Hulk, and the fact Sasquatch tossed around 250 tons 1000 feet with ease and the fact he can become an Elder God. I hope your not serious

Elder God with mystical claws..come on now.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What?...Walter transformed into Tanaraq in seconds. Are you actually serious? What again? He battled Hulk for 30 minutes and most of it Sasquatch didn't want to fight as he felt guilty. That was Savage Hulk, not professor. Then there's the fact Sasquatch defeated an alternate reality Savage Hulk, and the fact Sasquatch tossed around 250 tons 1000 feet with ease and the fact he can become an Elder God. I hope your not serious

Elder God with mystical claws..come on now.

Sasquatch did say that though.....

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'm just yanking your chain. You get riled up easily when it comes to Alpha Flight.

Sasquatch did say that though.....

I knew there had to be something up...you bastard 😮 . Of course I do, I'm the only advocate for them and their so underated. You would do the same for Colossus no? 😛

I know.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I knew there had to be something up...you bastard 😮 . Of course I do, I'm the only advocate for them and their so underated. You would do the same for Colossus no? 😛

I know.

I like Alpha Flight too, I have a few issues knocking about from the mid 90's.

After reading your respect thread I'm seriously thinking of tracking some back issues down to expand on my small collection.

So where as I'm not as dedicated to them as you 😉 😛 I am a fan! 😄

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and?

Untrue, I know all about him but his kinetic absorption move isn't that great especially he can't fully use it due to his bad heart

Iff you know all about him you should know he doesn't have a weak heart anymore.
Thanks to forge

Originally posted by Brutacus
Iff you know all about him you should know he doesn't have a weak heart anymore.
Thanks to forge

Even after the operation his heart has acted up and Guido has verbally stated he is worried another possible incident that put him in that coma would happen again.

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