Originally posted by long pig
"Nuh Uh?Please. You're talking out of your ass with simple minded insults because you know you're not as smart or as good of a debater as me. You even tried to leave ...knowing you're getting made fun of because of you're palsy typing.
JL A Am NoT LOOSE 2 DFENDeRS!
And I came back you tard. And low and behold, shit I been saying for ever is turning up as me being correct all that time. Your short on the uptake and haven't been paying attention. Ur lame strategy of the defenders win with a time stop was utterly lame and complete bullshit. You didn't give any thought to the match and you just shitted at the keyboard what ever came out. The battle is too close to call that easily and anyone with half a brain can see that. And I dont' remember being made fun of in oh a few weeks, will wonders never cease when people realize you do know what the **** your talking about.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is what I've been saying all along. He just said some dumb shit and his word was the final law.
long pig knows his shit, I got mad props for him. However, I just don't see how time stop would be an asset in this battle as a few people can do the exact same thing.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
long pig knows his shit, I got mad props for him. However, I just don't see how time stop would be an asset in this battle as a few people can do the exact same thing.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
He knows his DC stuff as well, I didn't read the arguements you two were having as it just seemed like it was more of a spat than a debate.Well technically this match is against the rules, as there are to many combatents. The rules state max is 3 vs. 3. So meh!
Those rules dont' apply when teams are applied.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Those rules dont' apply when teams are applied.
Technically they do as it's almost impossible to predict how the teams would do in a group fight. Would they single off? go 2 on 1? would they pick the character that bests suits them? How would they know that? There are just to many variables with too many people.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Technically they do as it's almost impossible to predict how the teams would do in a group fight. Would they single off? go 2 on 1? would they pick the character that bests suits them? How would they know that? There are just to many variables with too many people.
Well the rules said that you can use more than 3 when doing teams. I do remember reading that. Plus I made the fight even and picked an even number of combatants. Now how people choose to argue how it would go down is up for the fun. I personally tried to make the lvls of the combatants as close as I could. even picking magical beings to counter magical beings. I gave this fight 5/5 becuz surfer is the lose cannon here while strange and his girlfreind combined would be able to over whelm fate. But the bricks on DC's side and the imp even things up.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Why is a time stop an option? as Hourman, Dr.Fate, Thunder Bolt and I think even Alan Scott can do it as well.
That is what I've been saying all along. He just said some dumb shit and his word was the final law.
Wait, your saying this is hourman one million (Matthew) ??
That sort of makes it unfair. Classic fate is in every way an equal to classic Strange and always was. he's defeated the likes of Totec, Ynar, and vandeamon who are even matches for Shuma etc. Neither of these two is really ever defeating the other. it's a stalemate.
Alan Scot is also evenly matched with Silver Surfer ( unless he's blood lusted and consumed by the starheart in which case he's closer to Galactus himself). this can go either way. The only advantage SS has is maybe speed and since Alan can time manipulate to the point where he has made a planet go through millions of years in seconds because it's existence threatened Earth and that way he could allow the beings living on it to live out their lives before destroying it the advantage means jack. This one can go either way
BA is one of the DC characters who can certainly take the battle to Hulk and has a good chance of wining.
Cap Marvel may not be much stronger than Namor but his speed, stamina and durability Advantage is probably too much for him.
Because the next choice was Nighthawk I thought the Hourman in this thing was either Rex or Rick ( not Matthew). Their physical enhancements under miraclo would be roughly equal to those of Kyle in darkness. That at least would have made it fairish so far.
Hawkman with the claw of Horus is probably too much for Valkyrie with it's anti magic properties and the fact that hitting someone with it is like striking them with the weight of a planet.
Clea and Thunderbolt could be interesting though TB doesn't have as many limitations as it seems people believe. In classic JSA ( as in early All Star issues) his power easily commanded even the Spectre to do his will.
I would say Andromeda is going down to Star girl. If it was just Courtney as Star Spangled kid (a s in with the cosmic Converter belt and not the star rod) then it would be much fairer. With the converter belt she is only slightly physically above Andromeda with force fields, flight and energy blasts. Adding a weapon that allows her complete control over the electromagnetic spectrum of energy and gravity is just a bit too much.
I'm a fan of both teams. I have almost every JSA ( I think I'm missing like 40)appearance and the entire first version of Defenders plus a lot since. Make Hourman either Rex or Rick and this is a good battle that can really go either way. Having it as Matthew who has complete control over time and can devolve anyone to the point in time ( be it future or past) at which they are their weakest and it's just unfair.
Originally posted by beatboks
Wait, your saying this is hourman one million (Matthew) ??That sort of makes it unfair. Classic fate is in every way an equal to classic Strange and always was. he's defeated the likes of Totec, Ynar, and vandeamon who are even matches for Shuma etc. Neither of these two is really ever defeating the other. it's a stalemate.
Alan Scot is also evenly matched with Silver Surfer ( unless he's blood lusted and consumed by the starheart in which case he's closer to Galactus himself). this can go either way. The only advantage SS has is maybe speed and since Alan can time manipulate to the point where he has made a planet go through millions of years in seconds because it's existence threatened Earth and that way he could allow the beings living on it to live out their lives before destroying it the advantage means jack. This one can go either way
BA is one of the DC characters who can certainly take the battle to Hulk and has a good chance of wining.
Cap Marvel may not be much stronger than Namor but his speed, stamina and durability Advantage is probably too much for him.
Because the next choice was Nighthawk I thought the Hourman in this thing was either Rex or Rick ( not Matthew). Their physical enhancements under miraclo would be roughly equal to those of Kyle in darkness. That at least would have made it fairish so far.
Hawkman with the claw of Horus is probably too much for Valkyrie with it's anti magic properties and the fact that hitting someone with it is like striking them with the weight of a planet.
Clea and Thunderbolt could be interesting though TB doesn't have as many limitations as it seems people believe. In classic JSA ( as in early All Star issues) his power easily commanded even the Spectre to do his will.
I would say Andromeda is going down to Star girl. If it was just Courtney as Star Spangled kid (a s in with the cosmic Converter belt and not the star rod) then it would be much fairer. With the converter belt she is only slightly physically above Andromeda with force fields, flight and energy blasts. Adding a weapon that allows her complete control over the electromagnetic spectrum of energy and gravity is just a bit too much.
I'm a fan of both teams. I have almost every JSA ( I think I'm missing like 40)appearance and the entire first version of Defenders plus a lot since. Make Hourman either Rex or Rick and this is a good battle that can really go either way. Having it as Matthew who has complete control over time and can devolve anyone to the point in time ( be it future or past) at which they are their weakest and it's just unfair.
Nice breakdown. Hourman gives the JSA the win.