Originally posted by manorastroman
i don't care whether you can't advance beyond the literal meaning of "post-rock", or if you think math is stupid. they are genres, and normal people can understand this and identify bands contained.
Yes, the genres exist, as in...the music contained therein.
The labels are stupid, as proven by what I said above.
-AC
when in doubt, consult the bible.
I fail to recognize either of those as "genres". You can't just redefine the word "post" to mean anything other than "after", expecially when it's defined as..
Post-rock was the dominant form of experimental rock during the '90s, a loose movement that drew from greatly varied influences and nearly always combined standard rock instrumentation with electronics.
That's experimental, progressive, or electronica. That's Radiohead, in a nutshell. Is Radiojead supposed to be considered "post rock", as if rock is dead?
Ugh. This is worse than "Nintendocore".
Originally posted by manorastroman
when in doubt, consult the bible.
I'm aware of what people say they are, I'm just telling you they are stupid, pointless labels.
-AC
british press suuuuucks. i feel like every issue of NME claims some mediocre band like the arctic monkey's are "better than the beatles?"
by the way, it's post-rock as in post-modernism: not just after, but a reaction to. this is the only place i've ever been where people have difficulty with genre labels. i mean, there's always the "hella is more soft math than tech noise" crap, but post and math are pretty standard prefixes. we're not exactly talking neomathtechcore here.
by the way core, that's exactly why movement-specific labels are useful. if this thread was called "experimental progressive 90's electronic rock", this thread would be talking about radiohead. i don't want to talk about radiohead. i want to talk about post-rock.
Originally posted by manorastroman
by the way, it's post-rock as in post-modernism: not just after, but a reaction to. this is the only place i've ever been where people have difficulty with genre labels. i mean, there's always the "hella is more soft math than tech noise" crap, but post and math are pretty standard prefixes. we're not exactly talking neomathtechcore here.
I don't have difficulty with labels at all, I have distaste for people feeling they have authority to;
A) Make them up.
and B) For no justifiable reason.
If anything, post-rock would therefore be the era, not the genre. They're rock bands, just a different kind of rock band. No need for "Post" anything.
Being "standard" in the eyes of many doesn't make it right.
Originally posted by manorastroman
by the way core, that's exactly why movement-specific labels are useful. if this thread was called "experimental progressive 90's electronic rock", this thread would be talking about radiohead. i don't want to talk about radiohead. i want to talk about post-rock.
Radiohead are an alternative rock band, if anything. Not what you said.
-AC
Originally posted by manorastroman
british press suuuuucks. i feel like every issue of NME claims some mediocre band like the arctic monkey's are "better than the beatles?"
They are ****s.
Originally posted by manorastroman
by the way, it's post-rock as in post-modernism: not just after, but a reaction to. this is the only place i've ever been where people have difficulty with genre labels. i mean, there's always the "hella is more soft math than tech noise" crap, but post and math are pretty standard prefixes. we're not exactly talking neomathtechcore here.
[Some] People here like to analyse things rather than taking them prima facie.
If you mean the 'post' is literally used to denote a reaction, I would agree. If you mean it is so named as it is 'post-modern rock', I wouldn't.
Either way, I still find the label to be a bit shit.
Any label with the 'post' prefix tends to be laziness above all else.