You cannot Prove God's existence.

Or prove that the bible is all fake. It is actually based on faith. I am catholic and I believe that faith is what you have even if your a non believer, or Christian, catholic, Muslim, etc. You cant prove god is real or not. Thats impossible really, as well as proving the existence of god wrong. All I have is faith, and I will always believe in god and my religion, holy spirit, Holy Catholic church, and life everlasting.

So, I think it is pretty pointless to try to prove that God and the bible is true or false. If you don't believe in god, that is fine with me. You just don't have faith with it. You don't believe in a god. Does not mean you should try to ruin it all with so many things. We have our defence of our religion as well, but in my opinion, its all faith. So lets end the whole debate and move on. 😄

Thoughts?

Proof to disprove god is out there we just haven't found it yet, when we do the world will spiral into chaos and I will dance in the blood of the pope.

Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.

We cannot prove his existence nor can we prove he does not exist.

Thats what faith is all about really, having hope in something that all other sources would tell you is wrong.

Science is about facts, Religion is about faith

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.

We cannot prove his existence nor can we prove he does not exist.

For now that holds true but Proof of his of his non-existence will come either by science or by time either way people will either give up faith because there was never a second coming or they will find scientifically proof.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Or prove that the bible is all fake. It is actually based on [B]faith. I am catholic and I believe that faith is what you have even if your a non believer, or Christian, catholic, Muslim, etc. You cant prove god is real or not. Thats impossible really, as well as proving the existence of god wrong. All I have is faith, and I will always believe in god and my religion, holy spirit, Holy Catholic church, and life everlasting.

So, I think it is pretty pointless to try to prove that God and the bible is true or false. If you don't believe in god, that is fine with me. You just don't have faith with it. You don't believe in a god. Does not mean you should try to ruin it all with so many things. We have our defence of our religion as well, but in my opinion, its all faith. So lets end the whole debate and move on. 😄

Thoughts? [/B]

Yes, we can't prove God's existance or God's non-existance, but who are you to say you're interpretation or what you were told from someone you trusted, loved and was, at the time, depended on is right?

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Proof to disprove god is out there we just haven't found it yet, when we do the world will spiral into chaos and I will dance in the blood of the pope.

Anyways, I doubt there is any proof out there at all.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You do realise the story was made up. Are you going to tell us that Tom Sawyer can't be proved non-existant aswell? See, religion is a story that isn't supposed to be taken seriously and shouldn't be taken as fact. That's the problem we have with you people. While we're trying to find out how the world works, you're arguing with us -- saying what some dead guy said was right. By believing the Bible story -- or any story -- you are delusional. You being delusional means anything relative to subject you are delusioned of, makes you wrong.

Yes, we can't prove God's existance or God's non-existance, but who are you to say you're interpretation or what you were told from someone you trusted, loved and was, at the time, depended on is right?

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.

We cannot prove his existence nor can we prove he does not exist.

There is no need to prove he does not exist. It is incumbent upon a person to prove he does. Science is not in the ridiculous business of proving negatives.

Jacopex, your idea falls down at the point where it is being debated whether religion is actively harmful. You can't live and let live if that is so. So the debate goes on.

Proof of God is best to leave it for Theology and Philosophy.

Science is totally separate.

Would someone use a Biology book to repair a car? Would a carperter use a natural science book as a guide for fixing a wooden table? No, so why use Science to prove things that...don't really have much to do with each other.

You cannot Prove God's existence.

What does it matter?

But many things we explain with science nowadays was once the domain of Religion and Gods- for example diseases being the work of evil spirits, and lighting or earthquakes being the wrath of Gods. So you can say that religion is area not yet discovered as science, from this point of view.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Proof of God is best to leave it for Theology and Philosophy.

Science is totally separate.

Would someone use a Biology book to repair a car? Would a carperter use a natural science book as a guide for fixing a wooden table? No, so why use Science to prove things that...don't really have much to do with each other.

Science in the future will be able to prove galaxies, planets and life are not created by god. If god didn't create earth, didn't create us, and didn't create the sun what exactly did he do........yeah he'd be finished once that science is proven.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Faith. that is all i will say and let me explain to you why. Tom sawyer first of all is a human. God is not. And I take religion as a belief, not a fact, but my perspective, and among others see it that way. And that is why I go to school to see how the world works. Or course. Not all religious people are what you think they are, and who knows about the majority of them? They might belive something else aswell.

Sure you can believe in god, I can’t prove you wrong but I can show you overwhelming evidence to doubt the concept of god. My particular belief is called Agnostic-Atheism.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You cannot Prove God's existence.

What does it matter?

You cannot prove a pink unicorns existence either and we don't base our judgment on the teachings of said unicorn. It matters. A lot.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Science in the future will be able to prove galaxies, planets and life are not created by god. If god didn't create earth, didn't create us, and didn't create the sun what exactly did he do........yeah he'd be finished once that science is proven.

Last I heard Science "discovers" not "proves" things. If you want to prove something then you have to be a forensic scientist and prove someone use a knife to kill the victim.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
But many things we explain with science nowadays was once the domain of Religion and Gods- for example diseases being the work of evil spirits, and lighting or earthquakes being the wrath of Gods. So you can say that religion is area not yet discovered as science, from this point of view.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You cannot Prove God's existence.

What does it matter?

Originally posted by JacopeX
YOU CANT compare science and religion.

Yes you can in many, many aspects.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Last I heard Science "discovers" not "proves" things. If you want to prove something then you have to be a forensic scientist and prove someone use a knife to kill the victim.

Science also proves.

So your saying we should end the debate and close the forum?