Superman One Million vs. Odin

Started by Soujaboy3 pages
Originally posted by Supreme being
You forget that in the celestial saga that Odin, Vishnu, and Zeus all threw energy blasts at arishem to no effect, face it Odin isn't his 60's uber self anymore thats time passed.

Journey Into the Mystery #513, in which Odin and Seth caused shock waves throughout all plains of existence, was released in 1996. Do the math, thats 11 years ago. Also, note that it was written by Stan Lee himself.

Odin's battle with the Celestials was one of his lower showings. A being who can destroy galaxies with a swipe of his hand shouldn't have been defeated so easily. Especially considering his son was able to knock Arshiem off his feet.

If I was a writer, I wouldn't spend very much time making sure my panel description complied with previous feats...

Seriously, it doesn't take a genious to realize that "Power enough to knock a planet from it's orbit" just meant "A really powerful blast"...

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Odin's battle with the Celestials was one of his lower showings. A being who can destroy galaxies with a swipe of his hand shouldn't have been defeated so easily. Especially considering his son was able to knock Arshiem off his feet.

You know all Thor did was destroy the hill Arishem was standing on... He's destroyed mountains before, it's no big deal.

Originally posted by King Kandy
If I was a writer, I wouldn't spend very much time making sure my panel description complied with previous feats...

Seriously, it doesn't take a genious to realize that "Power enough to knock a planet from it's orbit" just meant "A really powerful blast"...

So if a character who was known for being able to destroy planets fired a blast that was described as city - destroying, you would say it was actually planet - destroying?

Originally posted by King Kandy
You know all Thor did was destroy the hill Arishem was standing on... He's destroyed mountains before, it's no big deal.

I know, but he still had a much better showing against Arshiem than Odin did.

Originally posted by Supreme being
Very true but i think its safe to say that the Multiverse feat was PIS at its strongest, There's no doubt that Odin would beat Supes 1 million but that lies strongly with the fact that magic is just to versatile even more so than the power cosmic. And well with a magic wielder of Odin's level the fights surely in his favour but i just don't think people should be over hyping Odin when clearly his limits have been clearly defined.

it's hard to tell what is and isn't pis with odin. clearly though you're right in saying odin is simply more versatile with his powers. over-hyping comes from viewing only his high feats. i freely admit he has low ones, and zeus's examples are low showings for skyfathers in general.

still, even though odin didn't simply blink thanos out of existence, it really is almost as easy to say THAT fight was pis, as it is to say his high showings were PIS.

i think we agree that 1M goes down. if odin is portrayed at his typical or high levels, he goes down quickly. with pis it COULD be something of a fight, maybe like the thanos battle?

about odin's being depowered -- not sure that's so much the case as it is the fact that there are just more and more high level cosmics constantly being introduced and moving past odin in scale and scope.

odin seems pretty clearly above mephisto based on discussions they have had, and mephisto has stalemated galactus. but then mephisto has lost to ss and been stalemated by thor! he's viewed as equal to dormammu who has challenged ETERNITY but yet dormmy's been repeatedly embarrassed by strange. a watcher seemed to be a relative equal to odin as well, but their powers have been irradically represented as well.

judging pis and which showings are consistent and not, is such a difficult thing. 😬

Originally posted by Soujaboy

Odin's battle with the Celestials was one of his lower showings. A being who can destroy galaxies with a swipe of his hand shouldn't have been defeated so easily. Especially considering his son was able to knock Arshiem off his feet.

I wouldn't consider that a lower showing for Odin but a high showing for Arishem. The portrayal of the gods and the Celestials has always been the Celestials are space gods and operate above terran gods, you know that. A cube beings feat is just a impressive if not more than that of Odin and other skyfathers, but their still below the totem in comparison with the Celestials or Galactus.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
So if a character who was known for being able to destroy planets fired a blast that was described as city - destroying, you would say it was actually planet - destroying?

If that fit with the context, then yes that assumption would be valid.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Anyway if I wanted to I could say Superman 1 Million beat a 5d imp who are capable of easily destroying and recreating multiverses, but I know that's stupid so I won't.
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