Dooku team vs Jedi team

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Because thats how powerful Anakin is. All he had to do was decide, and he did. No other time would be different. Anakin is just simply that much better than Dooku. Dooku's ONLY reason for being in ROTS was to show how powerful Anakin had become, by pwning him so badly. And Jango and Durge don't have force powers, so if they try to fly away, what keeps a Jedi from pulling them down or using the force to detach like a fuel line or something? Vader moved a lever in ESB, so i don't think he would be hard to take away they're flying abilities.

By the way, where is this fight taking place?

Mace was too fast too see while fighting (this is in Shatterpoint and Anakin couldn't see him while he was fighting (although he could sense him)). He also has a supereffective form against darksiders (and the best form all around). He also has an incredible Shatterpoint ability that would not only allow him to dominate in personal combat, but also to see who he should attack first and such for a massive strategical advantage.

Anakin dominated Dooku in thirty seconds flat (including a 13 second saber lock). He also killed the Jedi's battle master with comic ease while choking another Jedi. He also kept Obi Wan "I can block 18 lightsaber hits a second" Kenobi running, even when Kenobi had trained him and taught him mostly everything he knew.

Then, there is Yoda. He was on par with Sidious, who ripped through Kit, Agen, and Seasse in about 5 seconds (even when most of his attacks at that time were against Mace). Note: Agen was giving Vos a beating; Kit fought against Asajj and did very well, and was speculated to maybe have been able to take Greivous (or at least defend Palpatine successfully from him); and Seasse... well... he was above average. Yoda dodges attacks from three Jedi Masters (one being a Vaapad Master) without igniting his lightsaber. He is also "The most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness has ever known."

So:
Anakin could take on Dooku, and after thirty seconds, come and help re-kill Durge or whatever.
Mace could slice through Jango before he could get a shot off, and then attack Durge (probably slicing through him and destroying his Jetpack), and fight Greivous.
Yoda could kill Asajj, Vos, and Sora in less than 15 seconds (seeing as how a distracted Sidious killed their marginal superiors in about 5), and then hop over and deal with Greivous so that Mace isn't being hammered by the general and Durge.

That, my pretties, is the tough fight for the Jedi.

The easy one?

Force powers.

Dooku has better control of Force powers, then Anakin.

I mainly meant Yoda beating the whole other team, while Dooku is distracted.

Or Dooku unleashes lightning, of course Yoda will block it, butt his team mates can attack the threo then, when Yoda is distracted with Dooku.

I agree that Dooku's Force Mastery > Anakin's Force Mastery.

Dooku easily over-powered Obi-Wan with his Force Mastery. While Anakin could not over-power Obi-Wan even in a Force Push contest.

Then again, Dookus force mastery was described as a joke when he was put up against Anakin.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Then again, Dookus force mastery was described as a joke when he was put up against Anakin.

Anakin's raw power prevailed over Dooku. And his mastery in Djem So also gave him a nice advantage in a saber fight against Dooku. Djem So is designed to counter Makashi.

Anakin doesn't have powerful Force powers as Dooku, like lightning, grip push..., he would become the most powerful ever, but he never did.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Djem So is designed to counter Makashi.

No, it's not. Where the hell do you dolts come up with such idiotic assertions? Of course, there's no need to actually answer that question, seeing as I already know: your ass.

Anyways, Djem So isn't "designed to counter" Form II, it merely has an simple advantage in that it can't generate "enough kinetic energy to meet [it] head-on" (and this is in regards to the duel with Anakin, who was on the attack). Now, to go as far as what you are stating, or even something to a similar effect, due to that is asinine, at best.

Vaapad, in Star Wars Insider, Issue 62, is described as "more open and kinetic than Form V". So, if you believe that Djem So was conceived for the purpose to counteract Makashi, then so was Juyo/Vaapad. Of course, we find out that it really doesn't cause that much interference in a duel, seeing as Count Dooku was able to take on both Sora Bulq, a dangerous Vaapad practitioner, and Master Tholme, who's no shoddy swordsman in his own right, and do so casually. One could even say that he was merely toying with them.

To get to the point, there's no sufficient evidence that I've ever seen in my illustrious career of reading Star Wars material that indicates what you suggest. In fact, Form V was developed "to address a need for greater power", seeing as Soresu was believed by some to be too passive. Not this crazy blather you're spewing. Unless I'm somehow wrong (which I'm not), you'll need to prove up.

I love how you come out of nowhere and dish out some well wanrrented minor pwnage! 😛

Well, you know, after a hiatus, I start picking at the little things first. It's just how I roll.

On a side note: "wanrrented" - XD. Ah, good, ol' Subjekt.

yea, thats what happens when you dont spellcheck your own shit. 🙁

Originally posted by Advent
No, it's not. Where the hell do you dolts come up with such idiotic assertions? Of course, there's no need to actually answer that question, seeing as I already know: your ass.

Anyways, Djem So isn't "designed to counter" Form II, it merely has an simple advantage in that it can't generate "enough kinetic energy to meet [it] head-on" (and this is in regards to the duel with Anakin, who was on the attack). Now, to go as far as what you are stating, or even something to a similar effect, due to that is asinine, at best.

Vaapad, in Star Wars Insider, Issue 62, is described as "more open and kinetic than Form V". So, if you believe that Djem So was conceived for the purpose to counteract Makashi, then so was Juyo/Vaapad. Of course, we find out that it really doesn't cause that much interference in a duel, seeing as Count Dooku was able to take on both Sora Bulq, a dangerous Vaapad practitioner, and Master Tholme, who's no shoddy swordsman in his own right, and do so casually. One could even say that he was merely toying with them.

To get to the point, there's no sufficient evidence that I've ever seen in my illustrious career of reading Star Wars material that indicates what you suggest. In fact, Form V was developed "to address a need for greater power", seeing as Soresu was believed by some to be too passive. Not this crazy blather you're spewing. Unless I'm somehow wrong (which I'm not), you'll need to prove up.

Djem So proved to be effective against Makashi and this is my actual point. I admit that I might have over-stated a bit. Anyways! I will not stress on it.

You came out and told me some useful information, so I appreciate that.

It's not as if it's two against Yoda, two against Mace and two against Anakin or something. Seeing as Anakin, Mace and Yoda have a brain, they'd stick together and I doubt those three incredible fighters could not overcome much of their opponents together.
Perhaps Anakin would get something chopped off, who knows.. but I don't think Dooku's team would stand long against such unpredictable and strong jedi.

If they the 3 Jedi would win, it wouldn't be easy, nobody on the Jedi team can quickly kill Durge.

The Jedi team wins. I'm not a fan of Dooku. He lost so easily to ROTS Anakin.

Only in a ligtsaber match, if Dooku at least try to use his superior Force powers on him, he would had a better chance of wining.

NJO Luke is far stronger in the force now.

Your probably in the wrong thread, NJO Luke isn't even in this fight.