Vader's "power" is 80% of RotJ Sidious's
Is that definite? It seems like potential makes much more sense, as it can actually be quantified (via midichloride). It just doesn't make sense that GL would to apply figures to something that can't be quantified (as in, overall combat prowess, or force mastery etc.).
Originally posted by Spidervlad
Wait, since when can't jedi block force lightning? Windu did it with his lightsaber, Yoda did it with his hand. I'm sure more powerful force users can block Sidious's lightning.
No Gideon's right, a pure lightsaber defence (which is Vader's only defence for lightning) isn't good enough to defend against someone like Sidious' lightning (who can apply lightning into storms, which are of too great a magnitude for lightsabers to block, as they don't cover enough distance). He can't use the force to defend against lightning, because of his artificial limbs.
Nebaris, the Visual Guide and such seem to support that Vader is extremely potent in the Force. I'm not saying he's a lightsaber god, but his mastery of the Force and training given how far he's fallen and the amount of time he's had to train is considerable.
Edit: Spider, seriously. Yoda's defense > Vader's defense, by about 6.3 virtual kilometers. Vader's mechanical suit leaves him susceptible to lightning attack, and while in most cases I would say that he has an excellent chance of blocking it with his lightsaber, Sidious has exhibited the most potent lightning we've seen from a dark sider, and the scenarios shown would guarentee that Vader would die.
I'm not denying that Vader's pretty powerful, but I just don't see him as being '80%' of Sidious in power. Not only is it dumb to quantify such a thing as I said before, but it also doesn't seem to make sense. ANH Sidious could take out 100s of Stormies with force lightning at once, Vader doesn't touch that sort of power imo.
Originally posted by allfg
I'm not denying that Vader's pretty powerful, but I just don't see him as being '80%' of Sidious in power. Not only is it dumb to quantify such a thing as I said before, but it also doesn't seem to make sense. ANH Sidious could take out 100s of Stormies with force lightning at once, Vader doesn't touch that sort of power imo.
He can't generate lightning. 😛
But he can wtfpwn a hell of a lot of armed Wookies - who are capable of taking out Stormtroopers - as of RoDV. In Sidious's situation? Nah, he'd get owned, but that's due to his lack of Force lightning. He'd take out quite a bit of Stormtroopers, especially given his talent for taking punishment.
Wait a sec your all argueing to the point where he gets to luke. ROFL as soon as he hits Nihilius he is dead because Nihilius just goes"buh bye" to palpatines crew (very well doubt palpatine can run the Gauntlet alone).
Hey i got nothing against palpatine if anything he is my favourite Sith ever. 💃 I unno i feel like letting the banana man dance SO WHAT!
Originally posted by GideonActually dont forget vaders force wave and in betrayel comics he annihilated quite a number of storm troopers who turned against him and he used the force to re-direct their bolt blasts away from him(no im not saying he can do it agaisnt lightning)
He can't generate lightning. 😛But he can wtfpwn a hell of a lot of armed Wookies - who are capable of taking out Stormtroopers - as of RoDV. In Sidious's situation? Nah, he'd get owned, but that's due to his lack of Force lightning. He'd take out quite a bit of Stormtroopers, especially given his talent for taking punishment.