Surfer's Team vs. Hal's Team

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, so your saying that if I went and started a Phayla vs Darkseid(with no erasing via OE, or ALE) thread you'd be saying that she should take the majority even though she has no feats to suggest such a thing? Because as we've already established in YOUR opinion, IM trumps DS in power without the ALE, which is why DS HAD to erase him.

LOL. I know my DC stuff, I never said IM was more powerful than DS. IT was said that DS erased IM becuz he feared IM might be more powerful than himself. NO where did I say he was more powerful. And just becuz I thought phayla vell would be over surfer doesn't mean she is any where near DS in power. DS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Surfer. Plus you have to remember, As I have ALWAYS argued, DS has GROWN in power. He erased the IM long before he absorbed all the power of those pantheons. Thus making him even too powerful for highfather alone. Comics are not a stagnant thing and people do not stay the same lvl in power. Maybe the rest of the board doesn't know about the happenings over at DC and when and where, But I'm no fool when it comes to how it works. Also, the ALE does NOT increase DS power anymore than what he had already. He already was top tier sky father or above in my opinion.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. I know my DC stuff, I never said IM was more powerful than DS. IT was said that DS erased IM becuz he feared IM might be more powerful than himself. NO where did I say he was more powerful. And just becuz I thought phayla vell would be over surfer doesn't mean she is any where near DS in power. DS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Surfer. Plus you have to remember, As I have ALWAYS argued, DS has GROWN in power. He erased the IM long before he absorbed all the power of those pantheons. Thus making him even too powerful for highfather alone. Comics are not a stagnant thing and people do not stay the same lvl in power. Maybe the rest of the board doesn't know about the happenings over at DC and when and where, But I'm no fool when it comes to how it works. Also, the ALE does NOT increase DS power anymore than what he had already. He already was top tier sky father or above in my opinion.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I would be angry about DC losing when this board becomes very even. As it stands now, more and more posters are starting to voice what I have been saying for a while. This is a marvel biased board. Which means I can't get angry when I know people are biased. That is like me getting mad at a cat for meowing. I already know what it is . To be honest, DS has wiped out the infinity man. Who is as powerful as DSor more powerful. So who knows what lvl Infinity man is. WoW, I got my answer for the Odin DS thread. Thanks for your help. DS has erased Someone more poweful than Himself. THat is of course if you believe that DS is skyfather. since most people don't, i dont' know. It can't be both ways. If DS is a sky father, that would make INfinity man more powerful than DS and thus enabling DS to erase Odin. If Ds isn't a skyfather, then this thread is not spite. Oh dear, what am I going to do? which road shall I take?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS has used the Omega Effect on the Infinity man who is more powerful than Him. Odin loses. Have a good day.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You are so full of sh*t. Did you happen to overlook these particular quotes...

It seems from my point, that he just lies about things to support his argument... whether he contridicts himself in the next thread, or not... just from my standpoint anyway...

Originally posted by darthgoober
You are so full of sh*t. Did you happen to overlook these particular quotes...

Are you silly or what? How old was that? What the **** is this? People make a statement and things dont' change? That is like me thinking the LT was not as powerful as the IG and later saying he was. I have a right to look at the facts and change my opinion on things. Please try and keep up.

Originally posted by bigbran
hystericalhystericalhysterical

It seems from my point, that he just lies about things to support his argument... whether he contridicts himself in the next thread, or not... just from my standpoint anyway...

Get lost chump. I could see if the threads were like the same day or even two days apart. those threads are weeks if not months apart. When you keep thinking the same way and have the same opinions over time, then let me know.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you silly or what? How old was that? What the **** is this? People make a statement and things dont' change? That is like me thinking the LT was not as powerful as the IG and later saying he was. I have a right to look at the facts and change my opinion on things. Please try and keep up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. I know my DC stuff, I never said IM was more powerful than DS. IT was said that DS erased IM becuz he feared IM might be more powerful than himself. NO where did I say he was more powerful. And just becuz I thought phayla vell would be over surfer doesn't mean she is any where near DS in power. DS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Surfer. Plus you have to remember, As I have ALWAYS argued, DS has GROWN in power. He erased the IM long before he absorbed all the power of those pantheons. Thus making him even too powerful for highfather alone. Comics are not a stagnant thing and people do not stay the same lvl in power. Maybe the rest of the board doesn't know about the happenings over at DC and when and where, But I'm no fool when it comes to how it works. Also, the ALE does NOT increase DS power anymore than what he had already. He already was top tier sky father or above in my opinion.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Get lost chump. I could see if the threads were like the same day or even two days apart. those threads are weeks if not months apart. When you keep thinking the same way and have the same opinions over time, then let me know.

I've always, on this board thought that Thanos>>>Surfer, should I let you know this?

I am making an observation based on evidence/what it seems like to me, so sue me.
Better yet, flame at every chance you have, or whenever someone opposes the "mighty" nvr.

I calls them as I sees them, and I sees them as a spite thread.
All your insults, and hissy fits won't change that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
WHAT?! I'm sorry but can you honestly not remember what you said 16 minutes ago...

What. As I said, your trying to tie a statement I said about the IM weeks, if not months ago, to a current argument. That's just plain silly and not good as a tactic. U first, should have asked me what I thought About IM's power lvls. It's already obvious that I thought phayla vell was somewhere near IM in power as I both saw them as over the surfer. Of course this was ALL BEFORE surfer turned on thanos's machine. TO which my opinion of surfer went up as well.Like I said, Keep up.

Originally posted by bigbran
You have always claimed to have a lot of knowledge on the New Gods though...
What would a week do to this opinion, what would a month do?

I've always, on this board thought that Thanos>>>Surfer, should I let you know this?

I am making an observation based on evidence/what it seems like to me, so sue me.
Better yet, flame at every chance you have, or whenever someone opposes the "mighty" nvr.

I calls them as I sees them, and I sees them as a spite thread.
All your insults, and hissy fits won't change that.

Then you have something in your eye. Becuz I obviously thought phayla vell at one point was superior to the surfer. I even put her in the same list as IM. So I think you just really wanted to pick with me for no reason. Or you didn't bother to look up or ask me what I thought when I made the fight. Also, my opinion in surfer's power went up as of the A. wave arc. Maybe next time, ask before being an *******. Better yet you didn't need to ask, someone was nice enough to post for me where I thought phayla vell was superior to surfer and that I put her and IM in the same lvl of power. thanks. you have a good night now.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What. As I said, your trying to tie a statement I said about the IM weeks, if not months ago, to a current argument. That's just plain silly and not good as a tactic. U first, should have asked me what I thought About IM's power lvls. It's already obvious that I thought phayla vell was somewhere near IM in power as I both saw them as over the surfer. Of course this was ALL BEFORE surfer turned on thanos's machine. TO which my opinion of surfer went up as well.Like I said, Keep up.

Ok let's review this for a second, I posted a list of your previous post which included you indicating that IM equaled or exceeded a skyfather in power when it suited your argument(which indicated that this was in fact a spite thread). Then you said...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. I know my DC stuff, I never said IM was more powerful than DS. IT was said that DS erased IM becuz he feared IM might be more powerful than himself. NO where did I say he was more powerful. And just becuz I thought phayla vell would be over surfer doesn't mean she is any where near DS in power. DS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Surfer. Plus you have to remember, As I have ALWAYS argued, DS has GROWN in power. He erased the IM long before he absorbed all the power of those pantheons. Thus making him even too powerful for highfather alone. Comics are not a stagnant thing and people do not stay the same lvl in power. Maybe the rest of the board doesn't know about the happenings over at DC and when and where, But I'm no fool when it comes to how it works. Also, the ALE does NOT increase DS power anymore than what he had already. He already was top tier sky father or above in my opinion.

Then I reposted those two separate instances of your saying just that(which you conveniently "overlooked"😉...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I would be angry about DC losing when this board becomes very even. As it stands now, more and more posters are starting to voice what I have been saying for a while. This is a marvel biased board. Which means I can't get angry when I know people are biased. That is like me getting mad at a cat for meowing. I already know what it is . To be honest, DS has wiped out the infinity man. Who is as powerful as DSor more powerful. So who knows what lvl Infinity man is. WoW, I got my answer for the Odin DS thread. Thanks for your help. DS has erased Someone more poweful than Himself . THat is of course if you believe that DS is skyfather. since most people don't, i dont' know. It can't be both ways. If DS is a sky father, that would make INfinity man more powerful than DS and thus enabling DS to erase Odin. If Ds isn't a skyfather, then this thread is not spite. Oh dear, what am I going to do? which road shall I take?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS has used the Omega Effect on the Infinity man who is more powerful than Him. Odin loses. Have a good day.

And NOW your going to get all pissy again, because I can't keep up with all these opinion changes of yours(which always add up to DS being more powerful than just about every non abstract in Marvel) 🤨 . I'm sorry but if you actually took the time to consider things before you post your concrete opinion on it instead of just spouting off bullsh*t that supports the argument at hand but you haven't really put any thought into(meaning you don't really know whether it's true or not), then you wouldn't have to CONVENIENTLY change your mind month to month now would you? And that would mean that you weren't "misunderstood" as often now wouldn't it? Maybe we should change your forum nickname from nvrhadaclue to cantdecideonshit, since that seems to be the case.

By the way, so your now confirming that in actuality DS HAS NEVER used the OE to erase someone who was more powerful than he is, correct(unless of course, your opinion has changed AGAIN in the last couple of minutes)?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok let's review this for a second, I posted a list of your previous post which included you indicating that IM equaled or exceeded a skyfather in power when it suited your argument(which indicated that this was in fact a spite thread). Then you said...

Then I reposted those two separate instances of your saying just that(which you conveniently "overlooked"😉...

And NOW your going to get all pissy again, because I can't keep up with all these opinion changes of yours(which always add up to DS being more powerful than just about every non abstract in Marvel) 🤨 . I'm sorry but if you actually took the time to consider things before you post your concrete opinion on it instead of just spouting off bullsh*t that supports the argument at hand but you haven't really put any thought into(meaning you don't really know whether it's true or not), then you wouldn't have to CONVENIENTLY change your mind month to month now would you? And that would mean that you weren't "misunderstood" as often now wouldn't it? Maybe we should change your forum nickname from nvrhadaclue to cantdecideonshit, since that seems to be the case.

By the way, so your now confirming that in actuality DS HAS NEVER used the OE to erase someone who was more powerful than he is, correct(unless of course, your opinion has changed AGAIN in the last couple of minutes)?

Ds has used the OE to kill sky fathers. And your saying conveintly changing my mind based on arguements months ago? I think your stretching for a way to save face. People changing thier minds months later isn't anything convenient about it. As I said, Keep up. It's not that hard. The threads aren't days apart. they are months apart. Maybe we can call you grasping for straws since it's obvious this thread wasn't spite and that was the entire point. Far be it from me to take your life away( if this is indeed your life) just becuz you remembered something I posted months ago. Tells me that you dont' have enough on your mind. I surely do, cuz I couldn't remember what I said months ago. Especially with the comics status quoe changing. Try to find something else to think about. I do.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ds has used the OE to kill sky fathers. And your saying conveintly changing my mind based on arguements months ago? I think your stretching for a way to save face. People changing thier minds months later isn't anything convenient about it. As I said, Keep up. It's not that hard. The threads aren't days apart. they are months apart. Maybe we can call you grasping for straws since it's obvious this thread wasn't spite and that was the entire point. Far be it from me to take your life away( if this is indeed your life) just becuz you remembered something I posted months ago. Tells me that you dont' have enough on your mind. I surely do, cuz I couldn't remember what I said months ago. Especially with the comics status quoe changing. Try to find something else to think about. I do.

And just answer the question about DS, has he ever erased someone with the OE who was more powerful than he?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Why are you saying "we" as if ANYONE(with the possible exception of Jesse) actually believes the way your trying to cover your ass? Everyone knows you well enough at this point to know your routine, which is why I don't have to worry about saving face against you. Don't get me wrong, there's no solid proof that this is a spite thread(which is why the mods don't close it), but that's just because you have enough experience at these things to know how to cover your ass by now. Let me ask you this, has IM had a bunch of low showings since the period in time that you considered him to be more powerful than just about any skyfather?

And just answer the question about DS, has he ever erased someone with the OE who was more powerful than he?

What does DS erasing someone have to do with anything? And if you want to know if he can defeat someone more powerful than he, yes he can. Yuga Khan, is more powerful than DS, he said DS is the ONLY one who could kill him. Now, as far as spite goes, one would think that if I previously stated that I thought phayla vell and IM to both be superior to the surfer, (before surfer got an upgrade in the awave I might add), and then put phayla and IM on opposing sides,then one would have to be a complete idiot, or just an a s s tard, to assume spite when I obviously stated before that I thought phayla was uber powerful. WHAT THE ****. how in the hell someone comes up with spite, going by an old statement months ago, in comparison to a new statement is beyond me. It looks as if someone is just grasping for a reason to be bother me. Or they have no life.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What does DS erasing someone have to do with anything? And if you want to know if he can defeat someone more powerful than he, yes he can. Yuga Khan, is more powerful than DS, he said DS is the ONLY one who could kill him. Now, as far as spite goes, one would think that if I previously stated that I thought phayla vell and IM to both be superior to the surfer, (before surfer got an upgrade in the awave I might add), and then put phayla and IM on opposing sides,then one would have to be a complete idiot, or just an a s s tard, to assume spite when I obviously stated before that I thought phayla was uber powerful. WHAT THE ****. how in the hell someone comes up with spite, going by an old statement months ago, in comparison to a new statement is beyond me. It looks as if someone is just grasping for a reason to be bother me. Or they have no life.

Second, as I said everyone knows you well enough that I'm not even going to argue about whether or not it's a spite thread anymore, because I'm betting they all know it to be the case.

Third, you didn't answer as to whether or not IM has had a bunch of low showings since then that proves he was never as powerful as YOU first led on?

Originally posted by darthgoober
First off, the question isn't whether or not DS can defeat someone more powerful than he(Quasar beat Phoenix, Thor beat Galactus, Spiderman beat Firelord, etc.), it's whether or not he can erase them out of existence? Has he ever done it?

Second, as I said everyone knows you well enough that I'm not even going to argue about whether or not it's a spite thread anymore, because I'm betting they all know it to be the case.

Third, you didn't answer as to whether or not IM has had a bunch of low showings since then that proves he was never as powerful as YOU first led on?

It isn't about whether IM isn't as powerful as I lead on. It's about DS having powerups, and other's having power ups. IM soundly and clearly is beyond Superman in every stat. He was so powerful that DS considered him a threat. Enough to banish him to some alternate wrealm. Im is everybit as powerful as stated on panel. The problem isn't that he has gone down in power, it's that everyone else seemingly has gone up. He doesn't have a regular book or appears regularly. Everyone else seems to just keep going up in power. Even superman. As always with DC, the characters wildly flucuate as well. One Instance IM is so powerful as to threaten even DS,(which Is why my first battle was to put him against the Runner), then the next he makes superman look weak(by casually destroying something that superman can't do with his strongest blows), then infinity man is fought to a standstill by devil lance. who is by rights very very powerful, but shouldn't have been a bother to IM. ANd to date, Devil lance has taken the IM's standing down a peg or two. DC comics. reading them is fun.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It isn't about whether IM isn't as powerful as I lead on. It's about DS having powerups, and other's having power ups. IM soundly and clearly is beyond Superman in every stat. He was so powerful that DS considered him a threat. Enough to banish him to some alternate wrealm. Im is everybit as powerful as stated on panel. The problem isn't that he has gone down in power, it's that everyone else seemingly has gone up. He doesn't have a regular book or appears regularly. Everyone else seems to just keep going up in power. Even superman. As always with DC, the characters wildly flucuate as well. One Instance IM is so powerful as to threaten even DS,(which Is why my first battle was to put him against the Runner), then the next he makes superman look weak(by casually destroying something that superman can't do with his strongest blows), then infinity man is fought to a standstill by devil lance. who is by rights very very powerful, but shouldn't have been a bother to IM. ANd to date, Devil lance has taken the IM's standing down a peg or two. DC comics. reading them is fun.

And you ignored this part...

Originally posted by darthgoober
First off, the question isn't whether or not DS can defeat someone more powerful than he(Quasar beat Phoenix, Thor beat Galactus, Spiderman beat Firelord, etc.), it's whether or not he can erase them out of existence? Has he ever done it?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Your pathetic. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that either Infinity Man IS as powerful as you led on(which makes this a spite thread), or you where just talking out talking out your ass about how powerful he really was to make him and DS seem better than they are. So which is it?

And you ignored this part...

Actually it looks like your the one who is pathetic and you are sore that I just pwned you. When I talked about how powerful IM was, he was and is all that I said he was. Or do you need me to give you a link to his respect threads across the net? But, He was taken down a peg in my opininon when him and devil lance fought in 52. which happened after I gave my first summation of IM. now get lost chump. your looking more and more pathetic as we speak. trying to save face when you know you ****ed up. You bothered me without knowing your DC facts. try not to make that mistake again.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually it looks like your the one who is pathetic and you are sore that I just pwned you. When I talked about how powerful IM was, he was and is all that I said he was. Or do you need me to give you a link to his respect threads across the net? But, He was taken down a peg in my opininon when him and devil lance fought in 52. which happened after I gave my first summation of IM. now get lost chump. your looking more and more pathetic as we speak. trying to save face when you know you ****ed up. You bothered me without knowing your DC facts. try not to make that mistake again.

I've already said, I'm not worried in the slightest that anyone will believe any of this crap your trying to use to cover your ass(they all know you do that kind of thing). However it's becoming evident that this may not actually be a spite thread, because you may have just been lying/exaggerating/speculating about how powerful IM was before(that's been know to happen on your part as well).

And in regards to THIS particular part of your post...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But, He was taken down a peg in my opininon when him and devil lance fought in 52.

🤨 ?! You JUST said that your opinion of how powerful he is hasn't changed, it's just that everyone else is MORE powerful now...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It isn't about whether IM isn't as powerful as I lead on. It's about DS having powerups, and other's having power ups. IM soundly and clearly is beyond Superman in every stat. He was so powerful that DS considered him a threat. Enough to banish him to some alternate wrealm. Im is everybit as powerful as stated on panel. The problem isn't that he has gone down in power, it's that everyone else seemingly has gone up. He doesn't have a regular book or appears regularly. Everyone else seems to just keep going up in power. Even superman. As always with DC, the characters wildly flucuate as well. One Instance IM is so powerful as to threaten even DS,(which Is why my first battle was to put him against the Runner), then the next he makes superman look weak(by casually destroying something that superman can't do with his strongest blows), then infinity man is fought to a standstill by devil lance. who is by rights very very powerful, but shouldn't have been a bother to IM. ANd to date, Devil lance has taken the IM's standing down a peg or two. DC comics. reading them is fun.

So which time was BS? 21 minutes ago or now? That's what happens when you start being dishonest, it becomes difficult to keep track of your story.

And your STILL ignoring this...

Originally posted by darthgoober
First off, the question isn't whether or not DS can defeat someone more powerful than he(Quasar beat Phoenix, Thor beat Galactus, Spiderman beat Firelord, etc.), it's whether or not he can erase them out of existence? Has he ever done it?

SS's team win.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I've already said, I'm not worried in the slightest that anyone will believe any of this crap your trying to use to cover your ass(they all know you do that kind of thing). However it's becoming evident that this may not actually be a spite thread, because you may have just been lying/exaggerating/speculating about how powerful IM was before(that's been know to happen on your part as well).

And in regards to THIS particular part of your post...

🤨 ?! You JUST said that your opinion of how powerful he is hasn't changed, it's just that everyone else is MORE powerful now...

So which time was BS? 21 minutes ago or now? That's what happens when you start being dishonest, it becomes difficult to keep track of your story.

And your STILL ignoring this...

And yet your still being silly. IM is still very powerful. He was as powerful or more powerful than DS due to his unique position of actually having his own natural God powers AND the IM powers when the first IM passed along the torch. He was indeed more powerful than DS was. DS still managed to erase him or trap him or what ever the hell he did with him.

2ndly, My opinion of his power went down some when him and devillance fought.Devilance is the third most powerful of the Evil new Gods, he should have been much easier to deal with than he was for IM.
Any way, leave it up to comics to not be consistant. Now When DS erased IM, IM was indeed more powerful than DS. Then DS managed to aquire more power later on. Thus making DS more powerful than IM, Even Highfather. Hell Jove, HF, Zues, and someone else had to merge to fight DS> don't remember exactly who it was a while a go. at any rate. I have addressed all your points and you lose. DS has erased someoneo more powerful than him, And This thread isn't spite becuz The IM didnt defeat devilance as easily as he should have AND the fact that phayla vell was >>> the old surfer in my opinion and the fact that surfer had an upgrade. Thanks, now I"m sick of silly lil kids with nothing better to do than call spite when they know NEXT to nothing about DC. and try keeping up. It's not wise to use someone's statements from months and months ago to try and prove a point. Too many different things happen in comics, and the person may have just read and old story or two that sway's thier opinion. Thank you and Good day sir.