Luke Cage Vs Abomination

Originally posted by grey fox
Which is stupid.

No amount of street fighting skills can save you from a guy who can bench a building.

🙄 I dont like it, it didn't happen. People have been using skill in marvel for 1000s of years to defeat stronger opponents its not PIS, its comics.

Furthermore Luke chucked dust in WM's eyes. I dont see why dust cant temporaily blind WM since he doesnt see through walls or **** like that and Luke also managed to slam a slab of granite into his nuts....dont see how that couldnt hurt WM especially when Cage had class 10 strength as well and he was aiming for a weak part of the body.

Abomination should win this. But Luke did beat the sh!t out of Doc Samson.

Originally posted by Alfheim
🙄 I dont like it, it didn't happen. People have been using skill in marvel for 1000s of years to defeat stronger opponents its not PIS, its comics.

Furthermore Luke chucked dust in WM's eyes. I dont see why dust cant temporaily blind WM since he doesnt see through walls or **** like that and Luke also managed to slam a slab of granite into his nuts....dont see how that couldnt hurt WM especially when Cage had class 10 strength as well and he was aiming for a weak part of the body.

No because it's illogical , MA I could understand. Street fighting is basically a mix of bare-knuckle with a few dodges and kicks. Thats it.

I dont like it , is when I ignore the fact that abomination has beaten the shit out of hulk before and a few other class one hundreds while the best Luke has under his belt (to my knowledge) is taking down wrecker with help.

Cage is a street leveler , end of story.

Originally posted by grey fox
No because it's illogical , MA I could understand. Street fighting is basically a mix of bare-knuckle with a few dodges and kicks. Thats it.

No its not you dont have to be an MA to know that the eyes and the nuts are vulnerable spots. A streetfighter wont know pressure points but he will aim for weak spots, thats what Cage did to Wonder Man.

Originally posted by grey fox

I dont like it , is when I ignore the fact that abomination has beaten the shit out of hulk before and a few other class one hundreds while the best Luke has under his belt (to my knowledge) is taking down wrecker with help.

Cage is a street leveler , end of story.

Well see above. Im not sure but I think pre-upgraded Powerman took on the Thing as well.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No its not you dont have to be an MA to know that the eyes and the nuts are vulnerable spots. A streetfighter wont know pressure points but he will aim for weak spots, thats what Cage did to Wonder Man.

Well see above. Im not sure but I think pre-upgraded Powerman took on the Thing as well.

Yes, he did I have the issue, he took on Grimm in a Thing exo suit, he wasn't as strong as regular Grimm but he was much stronger than Luke who back then (70's) was said to be able to press about 3 tons.

He also took on Grimm in the last issue (13?) of "Cage" but he was possessed by some shadow demon type thing IIRC.

Hes also taken on the Hulk and beaten Rhino, to be fair though, against the Hulk he was written as fighting to just to stay alive and he knew he was way out of his league.

I think he could hold Abom for a while but he would have to get really lucky to put him down.

He would put up a better fight than most class 25's though.

Wow . . . just wow.

Abom should be able to scramble Luke's brain with one hit.

Originally posted by Hercules

Hes also taken on the Hulk and beaten Rhino, to be fair though, against the Hulk he was written as fighting to just to stay alive and he knew he was way out of his league.

Yeah but he still survived and he wasnt even upgraded.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Wow . . . just wow.

Abom should be able to scramble Luke's brain with one hit.

You do know that Luke could probably dodge a great deal of those punches anyway?

Originally posted by Alfheim
You do know that Luke could probably dodge a great deal of those punches anyway?

Abom fights Hulk . . . Luke is Class25 at best . . . it doesn't matter if he dodges them he'll never hurt Abom and eventually he'll get hit.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Abom fights Hulk . . . Luke is Class25 at best . . . it doesn't matter if he dodges them he'll never hurt Abom and eventually he'll get hit.

Well as I was saying a non upgraded Luke took on Wonder Man and was able to use his skills to hold him off for a bit. An upgraded Luke is probably good enough to take a few wins.

Yeah he will be able to hurt Abom by being smart, he a street fighter he doenst know pressure point but he will aim for the weak points...eyes etc.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well as I was saying a non upgraded Luke took on Wonder Man and was able to use his skills to hold him off for a bit. An upgraded Luke is probably good enough to take a few wins.

Yeah he will be able to hurt Abom by being smart, he a street fighter he doenst know pressure point but he will aim for the weak points...eyes etc.

Is Luke really that fast?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Is Luke really that fast?

Yes I think he is , he has dodged Savage Hulks punches and not get hit once. In the recent New Avengers he was escaping from the police and he was so fast that the police didnt even have time to fire bullets at him.

he cant dodge bullets like people like Cap and Daredevil but for somebody of his strength and durability hes damn fast.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Is Luke really that fast?

Hes about Olympic Athlete level, I would have said, no DD or Cap etc but for a big man, he can book.

Originally posted by Hercules
Hes about Olympic Athlete level, I would have said, no DD or Cap etc but for a big man, he can book.

Yup that somes it up quite well. Im sure punches to the eyes, ears, throat and nuts are all places Luke is gonna go for.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No its not you dont have to be an MA to know that the eyes and the nuts are vulnerable spots. A streetfighter wont know pressure points but he will aim for weak spots, thats what Cage did to Wonder Man.

Well see above. Im not sure but I think pre-upgraded Powerman took on the Thing as well.

Cage kicked Wonder man in the nuts ? When Abomination heels from this i fell very sorry for Cages stronger than Steel nuts. I have a feeling he'll be maybe coughing them up !

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yup that somes it up quite well. Im sure punches to the eyes, ears, throat and nuts are all places Luke is gonna go for.

...but then were talking about a guy with a healing factor and pretty durable skin. Plus i don't thinks he has ears AND nuts....

Originally posted by grey fox
...but then were talking about a guy with a healing factor and pretty durable skin. Plus i don't thinks he has ears AND nuts....

No Nuts? you mean like Action Man? (GI Joe for our American readers)

Poor guy, no wonder hes PO'd at the world!

Originally posted by Hercules
No Nuts? you mean like Action Man? (GI Joe for our American readers)

Poor guy, no wonder hes PO'd at the world!

I dont think so . I mean he may walk around in breifs all the time , but then so does The Thing...

Originally posted by grey fox
...but then were talking about a guy with a healing factor and pretty durable skin.

Yeah and Cage has superhuman strength, plus....due to the toghness of his skin his punches will do more damage than other superhumans of that strength level. Wolverine has a healing factor and can lift 2 tons I think but he still gets hurt by people without superhuman strength when he gets hit in the nuts eg Punisher with baseball bat.

Originally posted by grey fox

Plus i don't thinks he has ears AND nuts....

*sigh* the abomination has ears, eyes and everything else that a humans have, so its safe to assume he has a scaley green nutsack.

Originally posted by Hercules
No Nuts? you mean like Action Man? (GI Joe for our American readers)

Poor guy, no wonder hes PO'd at the world!

hes just making assumptions. Abom has eyes, ears, teeth, fingers and fingernails and all of a sudden he doesnt have any nuts.

Originally posted by grey fox
I dont think so . I mean he may walk around in breifs all the time , but then so does The Thing...

Actually about TheThing . . . I have a scan posted in the ownage thread that partially adresses that problem (its UltThing but still)

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and Cage has superhuman strength, plus....due to the toghness of his skin his punches will do more damage than other superhumans of that strength level. Wolverine has a healing factor and can lift 2 tons I think but he still gets hurt by people without superhuman strength when he gets hit in the nuts eg Punisher with baseball bat.

*sigh* the abomination has ears, eyes and everything else that a humans have, so its safe to assume he has a scaley green nutsack.

hes just making assumptions. Abom has eyes, ears, teeth, fingers and fingernails and all of a sudden he doesnt have any nuts.

Note I said I THINK , so step off my nuts !