Mandarin vs Martian Manhunter

Originally posted by Draco69
There's nothing Mandarin can do to Martian Manhunter. MM can just mindf*ck him. Or use his TK to simply rip Mandarin's hand of with the rings. Or simply phase through every attack.

And matter manipulation and disengration simply won't work on MM. It's been tried on him several times. And he simply reformed himself and then altered his molecular structure to become immune to the previously said attack.

how are you gonna be impervious to molecular attack?Unless if it is indicated that he has complete control of his molecules, Which I have never heard of. Mandarin has a tremendous high degree of TP attack. He was trained by monks and one of his rings allow him to use it as a barrier.
MM doesn't always us his phasing attack immediately in a fight. ITS like Superman being able to obliterate you with his eye beams. Yes he could do it but how often does he use it? Stay true to what the character does, man

Originally posted by LordFear
how are you gonna be impervious to molecular attack?Unless if it is indicated that he has complete control of his molecules, Which I have never heard of. Mandarin has a tremendous high degree of TP attack. He was trained by monks and one of his rings allow him to use it as a barrier.
MM doesn't always us his phasing attack immediately in a fight. ITS like Superman being able to obliterate you with his eye beams. Yes he could do it but how often does he use it? Stay true to what the character does, man

See, that's the thing. If the molecular attack never works fully against Iron Man, what will it do to someone >> IM? Not much. The rings should be a lot more powerful, but they aren't. And I agree, Mandarin should probably be more powerful too. But he isn't...and he's never been written in J'onn's league (pun intended).

Originally posted by DigiMark007
See, that's the thing. If the molecular attack never works fully against Iron Man, what will it do to someone >> IM? Not much. The rings should be a lot more powerful, but they aren't. And I agree, Mandarin should probably be more powerful too. But he isn't...and he's never been written in J'onn's league (pun intended).

I understand that, but I am looking at it from the standpoint that Mandarin can use the rings to their full potential. Incidentally I never agreed with IM being able to put the kibosh on him so easily whether Tony or Rhodey, but my God the rings on one hand alone would be able to level most heroes and for Mandy to mess with the uber powerfuls like Juggy or Thor or DrStrange. Marvel just dropped the ball on a great character.Anyway enough of my rantings.

Originally posted by LordFear
how are you gonna be impervious to molecular attack?Unless if it is indicated that he has complete control of his molecules, Which I have never heard of. Mandarin has a tremendous high degree of TP attack. He was trained by monks and one of his rings allow him to use it as a barrier.
MM doesn't always us his phasing attack immediately in a fight. ITS like Superman being able to obliterate you with his eye beams. Yes he could do it but how often does he use it? Stay true to what the character does, man

You just answered your own question. MM has complete and utter control over his atomic and molecular structure.

Mandarin's monk training isn't going to protect him against someone who psionically attack Angels and Mageddon and even at one point the Spectre.

MM always turns intangible at the start of the battle and thusly turns invisible. Then he scans his opponents and tactically creates a strategy. Then he adjusts his molecular structure to adapt to his opponent's every move.

That's the usual modus operandi for MM....

By rights, Ironman shoulbe be getting owned 6 outta 10 times these two encounter each other but for whatever reason Mandy get's bitchslapped around like an Asian girl in boy's clothing.

Originally posted by Draco69
You just answered your own question. MM has complete and utter control over his atomic and molecular structure.

Mandarin's monk training isn't going to protect him against someone who psionically attack Angels and Mageddon and even at one point the Spectre.

MM always turns intangible at the start of the battle and thusly turns invisible. Then he scans his opponents and tactically creates a strategy. Then he adjusts his molecular structure to adapt to his opponent's every move.

That's the usual modus operandi for MM....

IF you say so but I own many JLA comix and that's not alway his MO. Futhermore I have never seen him "adjusting his molecular density to his opponent's every move" since when? Can you show me more than two evidence of that please or refer me to issues?
And just because he attacks Angels(by the way who the hell said that all angels if any are impervious to mental attacks? Where has that ever been stated) I have seen mental attacks get backlashed by MM multiple times, prove me wrong Draco with scans if its a problem with that statement