The Suffering of Jews

Started by Lord Urizen3 pages
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Gays are my butt buddies and i often walk the streets with a butter knife shoved up my ass and I love it when men touch me with their penises.

That's pretty much correct, except you have to replace "butter knife" with dildo.

Everything else was accurate 😉

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
How was that?

You were almost theredroolio

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
First, the dillusion that an all knowing god would play favorites with one particular people over all others is indicative of the stereotypical Jewish philosophy that god loves them more because he's given them the most crap to deal with. It's very much where Jesus got his idea that the marginalized segments of society are god's favored over the rich and comfortable.

True, it's the same complex that Mother Teresa had about suffering. That suffering was this blessing God sent to those he loved.

If that was so, then why is Hell a bad thing ? 😕

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Second, everything Jesus said has been bastardized by the men who came after him and sought to keep or increase the power their religion would bring them. So, Christians are fast to hold onto the idea that the Jews were the chosen people until Jesus came along and created a whole new show...and they killed him. (Some christians really can't get pass this)

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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Third, the Jews need to get over themselves. Just like the Christians, the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Germans, Japanese, Americans, the French, the Chinese...and basically all humans. In fact, once humans get over the need to assume they're here because some greater power conceptualized, designed, created, controls or enlightened them, the easier it will be to get rid of this superiority/persecution complex that fuels all the stupidity on this planet.

That is true, but that's not the topic...

This thread is not asking why Jewish people think the way they do, or beleive what they beleive...i couldn't care less. And FYI, unlike so many Christians, most Jews don't actually beleive that bullshit.

Most of the Jews I have met are very open to the possibility that they MAY be wrong....and they don't necessarily feel they have special privelages or rights over another group.

I just don't see why they have been easily succumb by so many other people throughout history.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I just don't see why they have been easily succumb by so many other people throughout history.

Because they've been a nation of wandering peasants for much of their history.

(except when the one true god, who chose them above all others, occasionally took an interest in their well being in the form of a burning bush or a pillar of fire, or a mighty flood that destroyed everything)

Sure, a lot of the Jews I know aren't very zealous. But why do they need to be? Their teachers are pretty good at explaining a metaphor or a parable. This is not something that is very well understood by their christian and muslim counterparts, who've been ignorant enough to take all that shit literally.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic

(except when the one true god, who chose them above all others, occasionally took an interest in their well being in the form of a burning bush or a pillar of fire, or a mighty flood that destroyed everything)

Ahahahahaha! I love that!

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Why not ?

Because...because we weren't chosen.
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Good for you.
What are they chosen for ?

What does being "God's people" actually mean ?


They're set apart from all others. They have been chosen among all other people to uphold His laws and to stand apart from all other peoples.
And so what....everyone is persecuted in some way, shape, or form. My question is why is it that every other culture has oppressed them ?

I will repeat myself:

"I will tell you the reason why the Jews are so persecuted: they are the chosen of God, and even the fallen of the heavenly host know, recognize, and acknolwedge this."

Originally posted by FeceMan
Because...because we weren't chosen.

Good for you.

They're set apart from all others. They have been chosen among all other people to uphold His laws and to stand apart from all other peoples.

I will repeat myself:

"I will tell you the reason why the Jews are so persecuted: they are the chosen of God, and even the fallen of the heavenly host know, recognize, and acknolwedge this."

Does anybody else notice that he didn't really answer my questions ? 😬

No, I was too busy looking at the kitten in your signature 😐

CHAPTER XVI -- CIRCUMCISION GIVEN AS A SIGN, THAT THE JEWS MIGHT BE DRIVEN AWAY FOR THEIR EVIL DEEDS DONE TO CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIANS.

"And God himself proclaimed by Moses, speaking thus: 'And circumcise the hardness of your hearts, and no longer stiffen the neck. For the Lord your God is both Lord of lords, and a great, mighty, and terrible God, who regardeth not persons, and taketh not rewards.' And in Leviticus: 'Because they have transgressed against Me, and despised Me, and because they have walked contrary to Me, I also walked contrary to them, and I shall cut them off in the land of their enemies. Then shall their uncircumcised heart be turned.' For the circumcision according to the flesh, which is from Abraham, was given for a sign; that you may be separated from other nations, and from us; and that you alone may suffer that which you now justly suffer; and that your land may be desolate, and your cities burned with fire; and that strangers may eat your fruit in your presence, and not one of you may go up to Jerusalem.' For you are not recognised among the rest of men by any other mark than your fleshly circumcision. For none of you, I suppose, will venture to say that God neither did nor does foresee the events, which are future, nor fore-ordained his deserts for each one. Accordingly, these things have happened to you in fairness and justice, for you have slain the Just One, and His prophets before Him; and now you reject those who hope in Him, and in Him who sent Him--God the Almighty and Maker of all things--cursing in your synagogues those that believe on Christ. For you have not the power to lay hands upon us, on account of those who now have the mastery. But as often as you could, you did so. Wherefore God, by Isaiah, calls to you, saying, 'Behold how the righteous man perished, and no one regards it. For the righteous man is taken away from before iniquity. His grave shall be in peace, he is taken away from the midst. Draw near hither, ye lawless children, seed of the adulterers, and children of the whore. Against whom have you sported yourselves, and against whom have you opened the mouth, and against whom have you loosened the tongue?'

CHAPTER XVII -- THE JEWS SENT PERSONS THROUGH THE WHOLE EARTH TO SPREAD CALUMNIES ON CHRISTIANS.

"For other nations have not inflicted on us and on Christ this wrong to such an extent as you have, who in very deed are the authors of the wicked prejudice against the Just One, and us who hold by Him. For after that you had crucified Him, the only blameless and righteous Man,-- through whose swipes those who approach the Father by Him are healed,--when you knew that He had risen from the dead and ascended to heaven, as the prophets foretold He would, you not only did not repent of the wickedness which you had committed, but at that time you selected and sent out from Jerusalem chosen men through all the land to tell that the godless heresy of the Christians had sprung up, and to publish those things which all they who knew us not speak against us. So that you are the cause not only of your own unrighteousness, but in fact of that of all other men. And Isaiah cries justly: 'By reason of you, My name is blasphemed among the Gentiles.' And: 'Woe unto their soul! because they have devised an evil device against themselves, saying, Let us bind the righteous, for he is distasteful to us. Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their doings. Woe unto the wicked evil shall be rendered to him according to the works of his hands.' And again, in other words: 'Woe unto them that draw their iniquity as with a long cord, and their transgressions as with the harness of a heifer's yoke: who say, Let his speed come near; and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel come, that we may know it. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put light for darkness, and darkness for light; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!' Accordingly, you displayed great zeal in publishing throughout all the land bitter and dark and unjust things against the only blameless and righteous Light sent by God.

For He appeared distasteful to you when He cried among you, 'It is written, My house is the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves!' He overthrew also the tables of the money-changers in the temple, and exclaimed, 'Woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye pay tithe of mint and rue, but do not observe the love of God and justice. Ye whited sepulchres! appearing beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones.' And to the Scribes, 'Woe unto you, Scribes! for ye have the keys, and ye do not enter in yourselves, and them that are entering in ye hinder; ye blind guides!'

CHAPTER XVIII -- CHRISTIANS WOULD OBSERVE THE LAW, IF THEY DID NOT KNOW WHY IT WAS INSTITUTED.

"For since you have read, O Trypho, as you yourself admitted, the doctrines taught by our Saviour, I do not think that I have done foolishly in adding some short utterances of His to the prophetic statements. Wash therefore, and be now clean, and put away iniquity from your souls, as God bids you be washed in this layer, and be circumcised with the true circumcision. For we too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined you,--namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your hearts. For if we patiently endure all things contrived against us by wicked men and demons, so that even amid cruelties unutterable, death and torments, we pray for mercy to those who inflict such things upon us, and do not wish to give the least retort to any one, even as the new Lawgiver commanded us: how is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us,--I speak of fleshly circumcision, and Sabbaths, and feasts?

Originally posted by FeceMan
I will repeat myself:

"I will tell you the reason why the Jews are so persecuted: they are the chosen of God, and even the fallen of the heavenly host know, recognize, and acknolwedge this."

Okay. But we have already established that. So in that caase we've already answered the topic question. But, if they're the chosen people of the one true god, where the hell was god before the exodus and after the first few kings of Israel? Because they seem to have taken a lot of shit before that and since then.

(which is my point. they call themselves the chosen people of god because they've got a lot of compensating to do.)

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Muslims cut penis skin too.

(Do Catholics (or any other branch) do that as well, or am I way off?)

Yes, catholics do aswell. But the jews invented it. And howe come you're not saying anything about the jews stealing money?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Does anybody else notice that he didn't really answer my questions ? 😬

Shitty-ass questions get shitty-ass answers.

*Shrugs.*

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Okay. But we have already established that. So in that caase we've already answered the topic question. But, if they're the chosen people of the one true god, where the hell was god before the exodus and after the first few kings of Israel? Because they seem to have taken a lot of shit before that and since then.

(which is my point. they call themselves the chosen people of god because they've got a lot of compensating to do.)


God was there...and I am doubtful that they call themselves the chosen of God because they want to compensate for themselves.

Originally posted by FeceMan
God was there...and I am doubtful that they call themselves the chosen of God because they want to compensate for themselves.

Dude, that's because you believe god chose them, right?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Dude, that's because you believe god chose them, right?

DUDE, WHERE'S MY JESUS?

(And, yes.)

Originally posted by FeceMan
Shitty-ass questions get shitty-ass answers.

*Shrugs.*

Another cowardly answer 🙄

You couldn't actually answer them, because you don't know the answer. Just admit ignorance, and earn respect for your views.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Another cowardly answer 🙄

Ask a better question to get a better answer.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Ask a better question to get a better answer.

The answer is that you do not know. Please stop acting as if you have some kind of insight that the rest of us lack. Cut the bullshit already

Originally posted by FeceMan
(And, yes.)

Well, then I can understand that you would doubt much of the Jewish religion is compensation.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
The answer is that you do not know. Please stop acting as if you have some kind of insight that the rest of us lack. Cut the bullshit already

Ask a better question and receive a better answer.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Ask a better question and receive a better answer.

Do not answer a question you do not have the ability to answer

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Sure, a lot of the Jews I know aren't very zealous.

That's true; Jews arent. Unlike Muslims and Christians, they don't lead a monastic lifestyle. Unlike Muslims and Christians, they arent supposed to attempt to convert people.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That's true; Jews arent. Unlike Muslims and Christians, they don't lead a monastic lifestyle. Unlike Muslims and Christians, they arent supposed to attempt to convert people.

Isn't converting to Judaism really hard and stuff? I heard rabbi turns you away few times, before saying yes.