RKT + Superman Prime vs Galactus

Originally posted by Galan007
Throwing gas on the fire huh?

-By Crom!

You know he's full of shit

As you know I would never say RTK is LT level.

Socks are running rampant in KMC.

😆

Originally posted by Mr Master
You know he's full of shit

As you know I would never say RTK is LT level.

Socks are running rampant in KMC.

😆

Nah,
For some reason this particular sock just has it out for you man! 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
When Galactus was going to devour his World Ship in SW, it wouldn't have put him at full-power.

It was even mentioned that after he devoured his Ship, Galactus was going to consume the nearby Planets/Stars so he was better prepared to do battle with the Beyonder.

This solidifies the fact that G wouldn't have been at full-power after he wolfed down his Ship.

While I can't say what level of power his Ship would put him on,

(definitely Universal Warper at the very least, like Korvac)

I must add,

it was Reed speculating that Galactus would do that.

Nor the Narrator or Galactus said that.

So we can't be too sure. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Nah,
For some reason this particular sock just has it out for you man! 😛

I've come to realize that it's dangerous to Own cats in here,

I have several Socks that follow me around the forum,

just to disagree with me and agree with whom ever is opposing me,

regardless of who's right. 😂

It's almost entertaining if it wasn't so pathetic.

Originally posted by Galan007
And you don't know that he can feed indefinitely....... See what I mean? 😬

Destroying 3 Star Systems while Hungry is very impressive, but in Marvel, Universes are composed of an infinite amount of Space, which in turn would equate to Googolplexes of different Star Systems and Galaxies....

I don't see how it is assumed that Galactus could destroy the entirety of a Universe, when he has never destroyed anything close to this, completely under his own power.

Yet he nearly aborbed one 😉 but all we are doing at this point is speculating what Galactus is capable of if powered to 100% but thats difficult jo judge from considering how there is nothing on panel.

Yet it I just a question of math really lets say hungry Galactus is about 3 % perhaps lower we don't know but then we can asume his powers to be enormous and maybe it was 10% we don't know all speculation and sometimes thats funny to 😄 destroying a galaxy maybe we should start putting a size on them a galaxy can vary in size. But again all this is pure speculation

Originally posted by Mr Master
While I can't say what level of power his Ship would put him on,

(definitely Universal Warper at the very least, like Korvac)

But IMO that still wouldn't have put Galactus at full-power, based on what Reed said...

Originally posted by Mr Master
I must add,

it was Reed speculating that Galactus would do that.

Nor the Narrator or Galactus said that.

So we can't be too sure. 🙂

And also a bit before G was going to absorb his World Ship, he "healed" the volcanic eruptions on Beyonder's planet so that it was more suitable for absorption.

So my thinking is, why would he go through that trouble if he didn't mean to absorb that Planet afterwards?

But who really knows? srug

Originally posted by Mr Master
I've come to realize that it's dangerous to Own cats in here,

I have several Socks that follow me around the forum,

just to disagree with me and agree with whom ever is opposing me,

regardless of who's right. 😂

It's almost entertaining if it wasn't so pathetic.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Yet he nearly aborbed one 😉

Galactus didn't just decide one day that he wanted to wolf down a Universe, nor has he done so since then. 😉

Without the Celestial, that event would not have occurred.

Originally posted by Utrigita
but all we are doing at this point is speculating what Galactus is capable of if powered to 100% but thats difficult jo judge from considering how there is nothing on panel.

My opinion on the matter is that if G was at his "full-potential" (i.e. The power he had in the Black Celestial arch), then he would be eating Universes how he eats Planets now.

This in turn means Galactus would be > Eternity...

But again that's just my opinion.

Galactus has never done anything completely under his own power which would lead me to conclude that he is =/> Eternity.

Originally posted by Galan007
Once again, G DID nearly devour a Universe, but only after the Black Celestial made his Hunger endless....

Galactus didn't just decide one day that he wanted to wolf down a Universe, nor has he done so since then. 😉

Without the Celestial, that event would not have occurred.

Right, it's all speculation, and speculation does not equate to fact/evidence...

My opinion on the matter is that if G was at his "full-potential" (i.e. The power he had in the Black Celestial arch), then he would be eating Universes how he eats Planets now.

This in turn means Galactus would be > Eternity...

But again that's just my opinion.

Galactus has never done anything completely under his own power which would lead me to conclude that he is =/> Eternity.

Well... Eternity did treat Galactus as an equal in the one Silver Surfer comic. It takes a lot for Eternity to treat someone as an equal.

In the Black Celestial Fantastic Four arc, all the Celestial did was make Galactus infinitely hungry - he did not in any way directly increase the ability of Galactus to consume - Galactus did that all on his own.

It shows therefore that if Galactus was hungry enough, he would be well within the ability to start a mass consumption device to convert time and space (in other words the material of Eternity & Infinity) into living energy for him to feed upon.

Superman Prime I would put at on par with Galactus after having recently fed. If Galactus ate a couple planets in a row he would be above Superman Prime IMHO. So average showing Galactus would most likely lose against this team. Galactus after having fed upon several worlds in a row would probably take a win. He is capable of destroying Galaxies, and that is Marvel 616 not an alternate version, that has already destroyed galaxies in the past. His fight with Mephisto was pretty damn impressive considered that he was fighting Mephisto in his own realm and reaching a stalemate until he started to consume his shard realm.

Galactus seems to restrain himself from reaching his potential levels though, as he has in the past been presented with the ability to satiate his hunger but did not follow through. Example being his fight with Mephisto, I mean why bother reaching a truce when he had the upper hand? He could have continued on feeding on his shard realm until it was all gone, and Mephisto would be history, leaving Galactus a heck of a lot stronger after eating an entire dimensional realm.

SMP wins this one pretty easy, solo.

SMP did nothing to ensure such a claim.

The character shows up, smiles, makes a sign with a gl ring, and gets infinite props for it.

Amazing.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Well... Eternity did treat Galactus as an equal in the one Silver Surfer comic. It takes a lot for Eternity to treat someone as an equal.

In the Black Celestial Fantastic Four arc, all the Celestial did was make Galactus infinitely hungry - he did not in any way directly increase the ability of Galactus to consume - Galactus did that all on his own.

It shows therefore that if Galactus was hungry enough, he would be well within the ability to start a mass consumption device to convert time and space (in other words the material of Eternity & Infinity) into living energy for him to feed upon.

Superman Prime I would put at on par with Galactus after having recently fed. If Galactus ate a couple planets in a row he would be above Superman Prime IMHO. So average showing Galactus would most likely lose against this team. Galactus after having fed upon several worlds in a row would probably take a win. He is capable of destroying Galaxies, and that is Marvel 616 not an alternate version, that has already destroyed galaxies in the past. His fight with Mephisto was pretty damn impressive considered that he was fighting Mephisto in his own realm and reaching a stalemate until he started to consume his shard realm.

Galactus seems to restrain himself from reaching his potential levels though, as he has in the past been presented with the ability to satiate his hunger but did not follow through. Example being his fight with Mephisto, I mean why bother reaching a truce when he had the upper hand? He could have continued on feeding on his shard realm until it was all gone, and Mephisto would be history, leaving Galactus a heck of a lot stronger after eating an entire dimensional realm.

Not a whole lot here to disagree with. perusing the thread I see a few claims that Galactus is unable/incapable of absorbing/destroying a universe, as it's never happened on panel.

The problem here is (sorta) like the surfer, Galactus holds back. a LOT. Even that ridiculous outfit he has is designed to contain and regulate his hunger. He's not written to be a villain i.e. Imperiex- destroying worlds and universes just because he CAN, but only does so when NECESSARY. We'll likely never really see a full-powered, infinitely hungry galactus for this reason.

However, it has been implied numerous times that galactus does have the ability to absorb dimensions and universes (black celestial arc, and vs. mephisto) and also that he does or may eventually have the ability to restore the marvel universe at it's end.

Consider also that a large portion of galactus' power was dedicated to containing/holding back abraxas (who is himself massively powerful) and another aspect of his power is tied up in the nullifier, which HAS been demonstrated to be able to eliminate the entire multiverse at once.

RKT is powerful, but not "primal force of the universe" powerful, and Superman Prime has no feats that don't involve a lantern ring, so this contest kinda has to go to galactus all things considered.

RKT and Superman Prime have nearly no feats. Galactus for the win.

Originally posted by UniOmni
SMP did nothing to ensure such a claim.

The character shows up, smiles, makes a sign with a gl ring, and gets infinite props for it.

Amazing.

Yes he crushes Solaris, smiles, can't even save an reality, because it was destroyed to fast. He did nothing to claim anything, almost anything. You can say he is on par with LT or the Spectre and you can say he is on par with Galactus. Both are claims, right? So my opinion is as good and true as anyones, because we know next to nothing about SMP, maybe we shouldn't use him for vs threads then 😉.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yes he crushes Solaris, smiles, can't even save an reality, because it was destroyed to fast. He did nothing to claim anything, almost anything. You can say he is on par with LT or the Spectre and you can say he is on par with Galactus. Both are claims, right? So my opinion is as good and true as anyones, because we know next to nothing about SMP, maybe we shouldn't use him for vs threads then 😉.

uh, do you have that issue? he crushed an essentially ALREADY DEFEATED Solaris by using a lantern ring. At that point Solaris had already been forced to go supernova and could barely form coherent sentences. It's scarcely even a feat, all things considered.

On the other hand, every other hero in the DC universe present at the time was straight out panicked that a kryptonite bullet would STILL be able to kill him when he emerged from the sun.

There really isn't anything on panel anywhere to put Superman Prime on the level of LT or Spectre.

It's my opinion that no, SMP should not be used for Vs. Fights, as he has no on panel feats using his own abilities. not one.

Originally posted by Kutulu
In the Black Celestial Fantastic Four arc, all the Celestial did was make Galactus infinitely hungry - he did not in any way directly increase the ability of Galactus to consume - Galactus did that all on his own.

It shows therefore that if Galactus was hungry enough, he would be well within the ability to start a mass consumption device to convert time and space (in other words the material of Eternity & Infinity) into living energy for him to feed upon.

Had the Black Celestial not made Galactus's hunger infinite, he could have never accomplished such a feat, on his own...... If you have any evidence to the contrary showing Galactus absorbing the equivalent of a Universe completely on his own, then please post it.

If not, it's flawed logic to say that absorbing a Universe is within G's normal range of power.

Sure it shows his potential, but that's only his potential when "enhanced" by another being.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
RKT have nearly no feats. Galactus for the win.

Originally posted by Galan007
Galactus's weakness has always been to magic, and RKT possesses the most powerful form of magic in Marvel....

Galactus does not have a "weakness" to magic i.e. Superman. He's been hurt by magic before, but his power levels are literally all over the place.

His fight with Agamatto (in his own dimension, no less) was more or less a stalemate with neither getting the upper hand. If Agamatto and Mephisto can't put Galactus down via magical means, RKT CERTAINLY can't.