Cyber, Sabretooth, and Omega Red versus Venom, Carnage, and Green Goblin · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

masterbruce Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
even with out his death factor he has defeat wolverine in combat

so did Wolverine ever beat him? if so, how? was it some plot device?

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by capt it up
it does work on logan and yes, but once it taken off of him his body will begin to heal again though some tiems he remains dead fpor many hours.
also alien still have a life force.

So the Death Factor is 100% effective against Wolverine then, yes? Even though he comes back to life, he'd still be considered dead when Red kills him.

And I never said aliens don't have life forces. For all we know, their alien physiology negates the death factor. Do you know for a FACT if it will affect them?

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So the Death Factor is 100% effective against Wolverine then, yes? Even though he comes back to life, he'd still be considered dead when Red kills him.
And I never said aliens don't have life forces. For all we know, their alien physiology negates the death factor. Do you know for a FACT if it will affect them?

it has a life force it will drain them.

your reasoning is dumb not every mutants physiology is the same and yet it has worked on every mutant to date.

yes red kills him your point?

Soljer Beware my Power

Spiderman beats Wolverine!

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Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by Soljer
Spiderman beats Wolverine!
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Uncannily accurate. 😉

jrodslam Senior Member

It comes down to Carnage and Red in the end imo. They stalemate. Although i wonder how team 2 would take out Cyber? Hmmm.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by jrodslam
It comes down to Carnage and Red in the end imo. They stalemate. Although i wonder how team 2 would take out Cyber? Hmmm.

Tendrils through the orifices to the brain.

jrodslam Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Tendrils through the orifices to the brain.

I dont see that happening really. That tactic can also activate the Death Facor.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by jrodslam
I dont see that happening really. That tactic can also activate the Death Facor.

Huh? You asked how they would take out Cyber.

Either Venom or Carnage could take him out this way. They're both stronger and faster than him, and along with the help of their symbiotes, they could easily subdue Cyber and suffocate him or destroy his brain via tendrils through the orifices. I don't see the problem.

jrodslam Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Huh? You asked how they would take out Cyber.
Either Venom or Carnage could take him out this way. They're both stronger and faster than him, and along with the help of their symbiotes, they could easily subdue Cyber and suffocate him or destroy his brain via tendrils through the orifices. I don't see the problem.

Ohhhh. My bad Metal. I thought you were talking about Red.

You dont think Cybers hallucinogens would work on the symbiotes?

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ohhhh. My bad Metal. I thought you were talking about Red.
You dont think Cybers hallucinogens would work on the symbiotes?

Honestly, no. I've seen Venom take some crazy poisons/toxins with a toothy grin. I don't see Cyber's hallucinogens being any different for the symbiotes.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Honestly, no. I've seen Venom take some crazy poisons/toxins with a toothy grin. I don't see Cyber's hallucinogens being any different for the symbiotes.

umm they work on wolverine.........and no toxin or poisons ever work on him either........

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by capt it up
umm they work on wolverine.........and no toxin or poisons ever work on him either........

That's only because he heals from their damage. And you know that's true.

The toxins/poisons are just plain ineffective against symbiotes.

jrodslam Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Honestly, no. I've seen Venom take some crazy poisons/toxins with a toothy grin. I don't see Cyber's hallucinogens being any different for the symbiotes.

I say that cause Carnage was once given an alkaloid which reduced him back to Kasady.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's only because he heals from their damage. And you know that's true.
The toxins/poisons are just plain ineffective against symbiotes.

as do the symoites. so how do you know thats not the reasons toxin don't effect them?

This arguement is pointless sicne there no way to prove either side.

there only one thing we can do is give two out comes

what is the out come that would happen if it did effect them and what the out come if it did not

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