In his bio, sure.Comics? Not so much.
IIRC DD stated in running Cap is faster.
IMO DD is more agile. Reflex speed pretty close.
DD is the better pressure-point fighter and has better anticipation skills due to the radar/super-senses.
But Cap's stats are better backed with his own A-list hand to hand combat abilities.
It will always be a good fight between the two. I always see DD as the more skilled/technical fighter. More finese as to where Cap is still skilled but more of a pounder and not quite s graceful and fluent as DD. Just my opinioin. Every now and then, i always go back and read the first 4 issues of the New Avengers. You can see the difference in style between the two. I love it and one of my favorites to read.
ya know, I used to think Daredevil would take this logically because of his radar sense, and thus, he'd always be one step ahead of Capt as far as taking hits goes & countering, but Caps got enhanced reflexes and I dont think DD would be used to that, not to mention, hes stronger, more skilled IMO and a much better tactician. and he doesnt have to use the shield because duh, we know DD will dodge it, hes deflected bullets with his billy club for God's sake, but i think Cap takes him h2h. SSS ftw. and >radar sense IMO. Capt 6/10
Originally posted by braz
ya know, I used to think Daredevil would take this logically because of his radar sense, and thus, he'd always be one step ahead of Capt as far as taking hits goes & countering, but Caps got enhanced reflexes and I dont think DD would be used to that, not to mention, hes stronger, more skilled IMO and a much better tactician. and he doesnt have to use the shield because duh, we know DD will dodge it, hes deflected bullets with his billy club for God's sake, but i think Cap takes him h2h. SSS ftw. and >radar sense IMO. Capt 6/10
I hear ya braz. EventhoughCaps got enhanced reflexes, i stil think DD's reflexes and reaction time is better than his. I mean due to his senses, his reflexes/reaction time is on Spiderman level. As far as better tactician goes, im not sure. Could go either way.
Originally posted by jrodslamWhat's the records between the two?
A few times. Obviously someone wasnt in their right mind at the time, but theyve had about 3 scuffles.
That's what I don't like about comic fights. They have two popular characters fight but there is never no clear winner hardly at all. That's because they don't want to tarnish a characters credibilty I guess but still.
Originally posted by long pig
Physically, they are pretty equal with DD being slightly faster & more agile and Cap being a tad bit stronger and he's got more endurance.Skill-wise, like it or not, DD is a better more well rounded conventional fighter mixed in with not-so-conventional exotic mystical combat training that, again, like-it-or-not, Cap won't know how to deal with.
That shield won't ever, ever, ever, ever hit DD. It won't happen, it can't happen...DD will know where it's at at all times. He'll have a better idea about where it'll be next than Cap himself will.
The fight would go on for a while seeing Cap throwing, and continually missing DD with his shield. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the shield ended up in DD's hands.
If it does, DD murders Cap. If Cap plays smart and decides not to use the shield for anything but defense, it's a stalemate.
I pretty much agree with this expect that I think Cap is faster. Not by much, but he is faster. DD is more agile though.
The clincher for me though is that Cap is more durable than Matt plus he has more stamina. They would be pretty evenly matched at the get go but as the fight wears on Cap would outlast Daredevil. Captain America 6/10
Originally posted by snoopdogg
What's the records between the two?That's what I don't like about comic fights. They have two popular characters fight but there is never no clear winner hardly at all. That's because they don't want to tarnish a characters credibilty I guess but still.
Cap pounded DD once ko'd him.
Cap had a slight advantage in the end of another fight, but DD wasnt really fighting back, Just merely trying to talk/slap some sense back into him.
Another fight ended pretty much in a stalemate.
Oh, and 1 more where DD beat Cap.
Originally posted by long pigDD is more agile Captain America trumps him in everything esle physically.
Physically, they are pretty equal with DD being slightly faster & more agile and Cap being a tad bit stronger and he's got more endurance.Skill-wise, like it or not, DD is a better more well rounded conventional fighter mixed in with not-so-conventional exotic mystical combat training that, again, like-it-or-not, Cap won't know how to deal with.
That shield won't ever, ever, ever, ever hit DD. It won't happen, it can't happen...DD will know where it's at at all times. He'll have a better idea about where it'll be next than Cap himself will.
The fight would go on for a while seeing Cap throwing, and continually missing DD with his shield. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the shield ended up in DD's hands.
If it does, DD murders Cap. If Cap plays smart and decides not to use the shield for anything but defense, it's a stalemate.
Captain America has almost always gotten the better of DD when they fought.
since cap isnt dead ill break this fight down....
its pointless for me and J-rod to argue in this thread because we have already debated this topic with one another too great lengths, he knowing more bout DD me knowing more bout the cap, yet both of us never seeing eye-to-eye in this debate.
Captain America is superior or equal to DD in every department, and Im even going to go out on a limb and say that at the least cap is his equal in agility.
People who dont read cap must not know how the man bounces around like he's friggin spiderman in an uncle sam costume. Captain America is very agile, and i dont feel like DD has ever shown to be more, simply that DD might use it a little more, but thats only because he needs too more.
In strength...cap benches in excess of 2200 pounds, DD probly around 850. Cap is not only stronger in the gym, but the man hits like a fuccin mac truck.
In speed...cap is quicker and faster.... faster is undeniable...we all know DD isnt nearly the sprinter captain america is. Now in quickness its strange because we are talking about 2 different types of quickness. Daredevils quickness coming in a large part due to his radar system, he knows where all projectiles are coming from, and this allows him to dodge them better.Now i am not saying that this is the only reason he is so fast in the least bit but it is a part of it. Daredevil is quick...but cap is just a few notches ahead, nothing escapes his vision and he dodges bullets and dissapears from peoples eyesight, on a constant basis.
Skill wise, Some people prefer Daredevils flashy ninjitsu to caps straight forward western techniques. To me its more of a pick your poison kind of deal. Some people would like to argue that because DDs martial arts are more exotic that they are more effective, I dont beleive or agree in this, but when it comes to skill they are both about what-and-what either way you look at it.
I give this fight to the cap for the large Majority because I simply dont see anything DD can do that he cant, but there is alot of things Cap can do that DD cant.
Originally posted by King KAMI agree Cap 5.5-6/ 10 because of the stamina, but you failed to mention some of DD'S feats. The radar sense, also I've seen DD know when a fighter is about to throw a blow, just by hearing his opponents interior joints moving to throw a blow. Thus he knows where and when the strike is coming before hand....
since cap isnt dead ill break this fight down....its pointless for me and J-rod to argue in this thread because we have already debated this topic with one another too great lengths, he knowing more bout DD me knowing more bout the cap, yet both of us never seeing eye-to-eye in this debate.
Captain America is superior or equal to DD in every department, and Im even going to go out on a limb and say that at the least cap is his equal in agility.
People who dont read cap must not know how the man bounces around like he's friggin spiderman in an uncle sam costume. Captain America is very agile, and i dont feel like DD has ever shown to be more, simply that DD might use it a little more, but thats only because he needs too more.
In strength...cap benches in excess of 2200 pounds, DD probly around 850. Cap is not only stronger in the gym, but the man hits like a fuccin mac truck.
In speed...cap is quicker and faster.... faster is undeniable...we all know DD isnt nearly the sprinter captain america is. Now in quickness its strange because we are talking about 2 different types of quickness. Daredevils quickness coming in a large part due to his radar system, he knows where all projectiles are coming from, and this allows him to dodge them better.Now i am not saying that this is the only reason he is so fast in the least bit but it is a part of it. Daredevil is quick...but cap is just a few notches ahead, nothing escapes his vision and he dodges bullets and dissapears from peoples eyesight, on a constant basis.
Skill wise, Some people prefer Daredevils flashy ninjitsu to caps straight forward western techniques. To me its more of a pick your poison kind of deal. Some people would like to argue that because DDs martial arts are more exotic that they are more effective, I dont beleive or agree in this, but when it comes to skill they are both about what-and-what either way you look at it.
I give this fight to the cap for the large Majority because I simply dont see anything DD can do that he cant, but there is alot of things Cap can do that DD cant.
Originally posted by Facemanive also seen cap know he was being attacked from behind by sensing the shift in the air patterns.
I agree Cap 5.5-6/ 10 because of the stamina, but you failed to mention some of DD'S feats. The radar sense, also I've seen DD know when a fighter is about to throw a blow, just by hearing his opponents interior joints moving to throw a blow. Thus he knows where and when the strike is coming before hand....
if you want to go crazy feats we can, but it wont change the fact that, DD cant keep up with caps work load and cap is a good deal stronger.
For DD to win 5 he would have to finish the cap...and hes not finishing Captain America. he does have what it takes in terms of arsenal and such, but in actually landing it on captain america...well thats just not happening.
cap wins this fight...i dont feel the need to do a fraction because it makes things seem like maybe DD would win. He could win, but he wont, cap is better.
Originally posted by long pigyou damn right, you think they kill off both my idols and i wouldnt be back to raise some hell???
KAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how ya been old man???
and stop debating against the cap....I dont go to your strange threads and rain on your little parade...i heard his new miniseries was good... i plan to begin reading it tonight.
Originally posted by King KAM
you damn right, you think they kill off both my idols and i wouldnt be back to raise some hell???how ya been old man???
and stop debating against the cap....I dont go to your strange threads and rain on your little parade...i heard his new miniseries was good... i plan to begin reading it tonight.
Cap wins!
If you'd ever get back on DC++, there's a guy who can upload you the entire bendis & miller run in like 30 minutes. You'd like it a lot.
Dude, you know he's not dead.