Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not talking about AM and the Monitor fighting, I'm talking about AM and Supergirl(and he DID say she nearly destroyed him).
Originally posted by Galan007
Well I look at it like this.Spectre was so amped up, that he was seeing things undreamt of by even his creator, (God).
Yet even at this level, he still couldn't "kill" AM.
So Supergirl almost succeeded at what even Spectre himself couldn't do?
I dunno about that. srug
Originally posted by darthgooberI understand this.
Spectre fought him AFTER he absorbed the power of the Anti Matter Universe, Supergirl fought him before he ever did that.
I'm just saying that AM had still overtaken nearly ALL of the DCU at the point where Supergirl "nearly killed" him, not to mention that just before this, AM was slapping Superman around like a b*tch 😂.
And since COIE meant the death of Supergirl, IMO DC had to make her go out with a bang, (hence the "nearly killing" AM line).
Her sacrifice couldn't be totally in vain right?
Originally posted by Galan007
I understand this.I'm just saying that AM had still overtaken nearly ALL of the DCU at the point where Supergirl "nearly killed" him.
And since COIE meant the death of Supergirl, IMO DC had to make her go out with a bang, (hence the "nearly killing" AM line).
Her sacrifice couldn't be totally in vain right?
Keep in mind, I'm not trying to call a winner on this match just address the people talking about Monitor being on another level from Thanos. I don't think there's anywhere near enough proof about Pre Crisis Monitor's power to properly decide just how powerful he really was(Kinda like Super Man Prime, all hyperbole with almost no feats for the most part).
Originally posted by darthgoober
I understand that it was a low showing for AM in all likelihood, but the thing is that it's pretty much the ONLY showing we have to go on for him, it seems unreasonable to simply assume that his power was being severely downplayed solely to make Supergirl look good. We don't know for sure how much power he gained from the destructions of those other universes, we only know that he became much more powerful after he absorbed the power of the Anti Matter Universe(which was much stronger at that point).Keep in mind, I'm not trying to call a winner on this match just address the people talking about Monitor being on another level from Thanos. I don't think there's anywhere near enough proof about Pre Crisis Monitor's power to properly decide just how powerful he really was(Kinda like Super Man Prime, all hyperbole with almost no feats for the most part).
Originally posted by darthgoober
He didn't have the POWER of a universe until he absorbed the Anti Matter Universe.
UM No. If I remember correctly, the AM universe was the EQUAL of ALL of the Positive Universes. IF he absorbed the AM universe, it would have been equal to every Matter Universe that had been destroyed and added to the AM universes power.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM No. If I remember correctly, the AM universe was the EQUAL of ALL of the Positive Universes. IF he absorbed the AM universe, it would have been equal to every Matter Universe that had been destroyed and added to the AM universes power.
Originally posted by darthgooberI do think AM's power was somewhat being downplayed though, or Supergirl was greatly amped up.
I understand that it was a low showing for AM in all likelihood, but the thing is that it's pretty much the ONLY showing we have to go on for him, it seems unreasonable to simply assume that his power was being severely downplayed solely to make Supergirl look good. We don't know for sure how much power he gained from the destructions of those other universes, we only know that he became much more powerful after he absorbed the power of the Anti Matter Universe(which was much stronger at that point).
Not only was AM schooling PC Superman just before Supergirl confronted him, but look at it from DC's perspective.
They were loosing Supergirl.
They weren't going to have her go down without a strong showing.
And AM's armor only able to be breached by a PC Kryptonian, can be perceived as either a good or poor showing IMO.
But we both have our opinions on the matter, neither can be called wrong. 🙂
Originally posted by darthgooberI agree.
Keep in mind, I'm not trying to call a winner on this match just address the people talking about Monitor being on another level from Thanos. I don't think there's anywhere near enough proof about Pre Crisis Monitor's power to properly decide just how powerful he really was(Kinda like Super Man Prime, all hyperbole with almost no feats for the most part).
Where Monitor himself is concerned, he's a lot of talk and little to no action.
He has some feats, but none of which would lead me to think he is unquestionably more powerful then Thanos at his best.
It would be a good fight IMO.
Originally posted by Galan007
I do think AM's power was somewhat being downplayed though, or Supergirl was greatly amped up.Not only was AM schooling PC Superman just before Supergirl confronted him, but look at it from DC's perspective.
They were loosing Supergirl.
They weren't going to have her go down without a strong showing.
And AM's armor only able to be breached by a PC Kryptonian, can be perceived as either a good or poor showing IMO.
But we both have our opinions on the matter, neither can be called wrong. 🙂
I agree.
Where Monitor himself is concerned, he's a lot of talk and little to no action.
He has some feats, but none of which would lead me to think he is unquestionably more powerful then Thanos at his best.
It would be a good fight IMO.
Originally posted by Galan007
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Originally posted by darthgooberYeah I'd still call it a feat...... a crappy feat........ But a feat nonetheless.
Hey it and his owning of the Fallen One are all we have to go by in regards to his upgrade before he died. He was only able to beat the Maker because she'd taken mortal form, so even though there was some CIS on her part, I don't think we should rob Thanos of his win. The guy was able to stand up to Odin before that upgrade, so I don't see it as all that big of a stretch for him to be able to take down Maker after it(when again, it's just about all there is to go by).
The only real discription of Anti-Monitor's power before he absorbed the AM universe was that he was... Stronger then Monitor.
Also, not only did Supergirl break his shell and nearly kill him, but she was severely weakeneed in the AM universe. She lost her invulnerability, and I'm willing to bet that her strength suffered to.
On top of that, his second shell was cracked by some Qwa-Bolts from the Qwardians. And Wally West ripped to to shreads.
And the Monitor was MUCH weaker. Thanos can win this.
Originally posted by King Kandy
The only real discription of Anti-Monitor's power before he absorbed the AM universe was that he was... Stronger then Monitor.Also, not only did Supergirl break his shell and nearly kill him, but she was severely weakeneed in the AM universe. She lost her invulnerability, and I'm willing to bet that her strength suffered to.
On top of that, his second shell was cracked by some Qwa-Bolts from the Qwardians. And Wally West ripped to to shreads.
And the Monitor was MUCH weaker. Thanos can win this.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah. I'd totaly agree, except that Post Crisis Wally west destroyed Anti-Monitor's armor, and PC Supergirl/Superman were WEAKENED in the AM universe.And Monitor was far, far weaker then that.