Originally posted by TricksterPriest
fair enough. 😆Spidey:
I know that. Is that a life-size statue next to roger ebert?
Wonders of photoshop. And it's not a life sized model, it's just a pic of toy 'shopped next to that Ebert guy.
And when did Gladiator become vulnereable to gamma radiation? If that were so, he shouldn't be able to fly in space.
Originally posted by golem370I disagree. Apoc, while having control over his molecules, is made up of quite a few substances that Magneto can manipulate. Magneto has demonstrated EM manipulation on the level necessary to cause Apoc severe damage, IMO. AoA, while not 616 canon, was a demonstration of what even a weakened Magneto could do to Apocalypse.
Magneto beating Apocalypse is dumb
As for the fight, unless Apoc comes prepared with Glad's radiation weakness, I see Kallark taking it 7-8/10. His strength, speed, and durability is just that overwhelming and his confidence weakness is often overblown on these boards. The guy can punch planets to pieces. Has Apoc done anything remotely similar under his own power?
Gladiator is vulnerable to certain wavelengths of radiation. A large degree of Gladiator's strength and durability are affected by his level of confidence. If his confidence in himself wavers, he has been known to weaken substantially. Because Hulk can constantly emit radiation Gladiator only has his confidence to augment his strength as it slowly decreases due to Hulks gamma radiation.
Apocalypse will beat Gladiator. despite Glad's impressive feats, he has been beaten before, even by the likes of cannonball. and AoA was bullshit. Apocalypse should have easily been able to heal from something like that, assuming Magneto could pull it off to begin with. the only reason he won, is because AoA apoc is weaker than Classic 616 Apoc.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThe Cannonball thing is a fallacy. Kallark wanted to attract the X-Men, not destroy Sam. Cannonball was able to survive against a Gladiator holding back. Survival is a long way from winning a decisive victory. Spider-Man has survived in combat with the Silver Surfer. This does not mean he can defeat him when Surfer isn't holding back.
Gladiator is vulnerable to certain wavelengths of radiation. A large degree of Gladiator's strength and durability are affected by his level of confidence. If his confidence in himself wavers, he has been known to weaken substantially. Because Hulk can constantly emit radiation Gladiator only has his confidence to augment his strength as it slowly decreases due to Hulks gamma radiation.Apocalypse will beat Gladiator. despite Glad's impressive feats, he has been beaten before, even by the likes of cannonball. and AoA was bullshit. Apocalypse should have easily been able to heal from something like that, assuming Magneto could pull it off to begin with. the only reason he won, is because AoA apoc is weaker than Classic 616 Apoc.
how would he cause damage? All Apoc has to do is give himself a better version of Sebastian Shaw's power and then just pound Gladiator with the power from his own blows. I can say 7-8/10 for Apoc. I'll acknowledge Glads can get some wins. But if Glads's confidence weakness and his radiation one are known on earth and to Apoc, Apoc 10/10.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
how would he cause damage? All Apoc has to do is give himself a better version of Sebastian Shaw's power and then just pound Gladiator with the power from his own blows. I can say 7-8/10 for Apoc. I'll acknowledge Glads can get some wins. But if Glads's confidence weakness and his radiation one are known on earth and to Apoc, Apoc 10/10.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
how would he cause damage? All Apoc has to do is give himself a better version of Sebastian Shaw's power and then just pound Gladiator with the power from his own blows. I can say 7-8/10 for Apoc. I'll acknowledge Glads can get some wins. But if Glads's confidence weakness and his radiation one are known on earth and to Apoc, Apoc 10/10.
Trick, who do you think would win superman vs apocalypse.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
how would he cause damage? All Apoc has to do is give himself a better version of Sebastian Shaw's power and then just pound Gladiator with the power from his own blows. I can say 7-8/10 for Apoc. I'll acknowledge Glads can get some wins. But if Glads's confidence weakness and his radiation one are known on earth and to Apoc, Apoc 10/10.
He's done that in the past when fighting powerhouses? Or is that a "it makes sense that he could do it" argument?
I'm very sorry but Apocalypse is a joke. The world's first mutant and only one still a virgin loses miserably to Gladiator 🙁