Originally posted by Metalmanx
I sure hope you didn't think I was arguing for the Spartans here. I already said on the very first page that the Spartans go down hard, but merely because of their inferior weapons.Which is why I then responded with:
Yes it manly weapons, strength and durbaility which cearly gives wolverine and sabertooth the win every time.
Originally posted by capt it up
Yes it manly weapons, strength and durbaility which cearly gives wolverine and sabertooth the win every time.
If the Spartans are given the hypothetical adamantium equipment I mentioned earlier:
-Strength is not an issue
-Durability is not an issue (due to shields)
In fact, if the Spartans are given this stipulation, I'd give it to them for the majority.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
If the Spartans are given the hypothetical adamantium equipment I mentioned earlier:-Strength is not an issue
-Durability is not an issue (due to shields)In fact, if the Spartans are given this stipulation, I'd give it to them for the majority.
Hell the ogre who wa s simply stronger then they were was kicking there asses.
You give them your stipulation and they still lose.
there spears would still be wooden and so what if they ahev adamtium shields sbaerooth could toss them around like ragg dolls.
there still much slower then wolverine or sabertooth. They are not as skilled as either not even close. They have no way of putting either down. They still lose the majority
Originally posted by Soljer
Have you read the comics, or just watched the film?The comic Spartans easily have speed feats to put them on Wolverine's level.
They also have the strength feats to make the discrepancy between them and Logan....negligible.
also can you provide evidence of such feats. issue numbers and titles so I can see for my self.
Originally posted by capt it up
strength won't matter? You eman 2o ton strength won't matter in a battle vs mere humans? Sabertoth could sen them flying. Wolverine could easily over power any of these men.Hell the ogre who wa s simply stronger then they were was kicking there asses.
You give them your stipulation and they still lose.
there spears would still be wooden and so what if they ahev adamtium shields sbaerooth could toss them around like ragg dolls.
there still much slower then wolverine or sabertooth. They are not as skilled as either not even close. They have no way of putting either down. They still lose the majority
Why are their spears wooden? I'm talking making their complete set of gear to be adamantium. As in adamantium spears (from top to bottom), helmets, swords (top to bottom), and helmets.
This is just your opinion. While Sabretooth is obviously stronger than them, there are 300 of them. They can definitely overpower him, especially when he's got a few dozen adamantium spears and swords threw his body.
And Wolverine is FAR less of a threat than Sabes is in this fight if we take my stipulations into consideration.
Originally posted by capt it up
also there 300 of them. You can not simple take single speed feats or strength feats from a single character and assume it is the standered for the rest
Why not? They were all basically the same, give or take very little. They've all trained in the same hardcore way, their bodies crafted to perform the necessary abilities that the Spartans are expected to have.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Why are their spears wooden? I'm talking making their complete set of gear to be adamantium.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
This is just your opinion. While Sabretooth is obviously stronger than them, there are 300 of them. They can definitely overpower him, especially when he's got a few dozen adamantium spears and swords threw his body.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And Wolverine is FAR less of a threat than Sabes is in this fight if we take my stipulations into consideration.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Why not? They were all basically the same, give or take very little. They've all trained in the same hardcore way, their bodies crafted to perform the necessary abilities that the Spartans are expected to have.
True however body sizes and structure come into play. Some are a lot faster then others while some can be a lot stronger. Also many of these feats likely come from the blonde guy( forgot his name) who was the greatest fighter. He was also the fastest and would literally kick the crap out of any other soldier in the movie save perhaps possiably the king and the commander, but even they were not as fast or had the abilities that he possessed.
Originally posted by capt it up
Then you will hinder them. The reason’s the spears are wooden and not simply completely steel is the fact that wood is more effective. The woods lighter it allows them to do things metal does not. That is the reason spears are made out of wood. If they were made out of adamtium they would not be nearly as effective in combat and would greatly hinder the way they use them in combat.You assume they could all push at him at once? That be close to impossiable when he can simple swat them aside. If sabertooth punch one of them he send them flying back through the rest of the group. Spears would be moving in slow motion if thrown at sabertooth. The odds of him getting hit by a flying spear is extremely small. He can plow through there ranks swating aside any who go against him. He can even use there large tight numbers to his advantage by simple punching a single guy causing the rest to be slammed a side and scattered.
True though, he is still a huge threat. They have trouble keeping up with him not to mention there dealing with fighters who are far there superiors in combat and have the ability to take what ever the 300 can give.
True however body sizes and structure come into play. Some are a lot faster then others while some can be a lot stronger. Also many of these feats likely come from the blonde guy( forgot his name) who was the greatest fighter. He was also the fastest and would literally kick the crap out of any other soldier in the movie save perhaps possiably the king and the commander, but even they were not as fast or had the abilities that he possessed.
Arg. Did you not see what I said?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
But hey, you want to make a REAL match? Give all the Spartans adamantium gear (helmets, shields, swords, spears). Hypothetical adamantium, of course, that they can wield just as if they were their normal weapons. ✅Now that...that would be a fight, in my opinion. 😉
Did you see why I wrote "hypothetical"? Because then the adamantium would hinder them, which is the complete opposite of my proposed stipulation.
With Sabretooth charging through the ranks, how's he going to avoid a dozen spears and swords when they're all essentially right next to him? He can't even seem to avoid a car when it seems he has plenty of time to avoid it. Several weapons through his body will slow him down just enough to receive more, and so on and so forth. The Spartans' adamantium shields will keep them from being trampled (as they would just be pushed back from the force).
The Spartans were all basically within the same skill/speed/strength range. If they weren't, they would have weak points in their formations.
They don't have weak points in their formations.
the 300 go down. in a great battle but thay go down!
these 2 are mass murders .
thay have been involved in every major war/conflict on the planet in the last 100 or so years.
there training is leaps and bounds above the spartens.
thay dont tire out like normal humans, thay dont die like normal humans,and thay most definetly do not fight like normal humans.
thay take bullets spears arrows and anything els you can throw at them and just keep coming.
thay are stronger faster better trained have adimantium and both regenerate. i dont think you could keep these 2 down with 300 tanks
never mind some swords and shields.
i think either of these 2 would rule the world if thay wher in the time of the spartens
haha but all that is with out me seeing the movie yet so take it with a grain of salt.