The Infinity Gauntlet Test

1. Batman - keeps it and cleans up the universe (unless he decides that no one should have that kind of power and destroys it)

2. Apocalypse - taken away by the LT after he starts using it to kill people in order to test thier worth

3. Abraxas - Kills Galactuses and has it taken away by the LT

4. Thor - Squander's most of the IG's powers except the power gem but generally tries to do good. Keeps it.

5. Superman - Destroys it immediately out of fear at what might happen.

6. Scarlet Witch - No idea

7. Superboy-Prime - Taken away by the LT for making the universe eom

8. Captain America - Same as Batman

9. The Joker - Probably exactly what he did with Bat-Mite's power

10. Mephisto - Taken away by the LT after he starts doing lotsa evil stuff with it

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
it went to being able to might destroy the universe.

Read up on what you debate about, before you go on these whiny little tirades. doped

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We know galactus is more powerful now than he was before. No retconn or statement of increased power need be applied.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
reed used the Un to it's fullest potential. quasar did not and wasn't even aware that it could be used like that. he's not as smart as reed

Quasar was only trying to kill Magus alone with the UN...

Had his concentration slipped for event a moment, the Universe would have been destroyed without him even trying to do so.

Magus then pwned ALL of the UN's energies and turned them back on Quasar.

Reed actually was trying destroy multiple Universes, not just one being.doped

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and the situation for the UN to be used in multiversal fashion hadnt' arose. Thanks. That's called Good logic. Not this crap kmc is doing. well the incomplete Ig pwned the UN 20 damned years ago and it somehow makes a complete IG superior to a UN used much differently today. That is called crap logic. That shit wouldnt' fly in a real debate tourney or in any scientific circles at all.

Bottom line...

An Incomplete IG is shown ON PANEL to be >> UN....

Deal with it. doped

Originally posted by starlock
if thanos is right about the universes is he right that he is the supreme being of all the universes? so are we to trust one thing about a scan, if in the same scan there is a false claim in that scan?

or maybe the IG is the power of TOAA and he knew it?
and if he IS the supreme being why fight the abstracts and the heroes

there are many debatable questions in my opinon

No disrespect just a question 🙂

i think it is still a debate friends 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Actually The UN destroyed a Universe in 1990, years before the Infinity War arch....

Read up on what you debate about, before you go on these whiny little tirades. doped

Actually Galactus's greatest feat, (nearly devouring a Universe, and potentially more), is from 1990......... Nice try though. doped

Proof that Quasar couldn't use the UN the way Reed did?

Quasar was only trying to kill Magus alone with the UN...

Had his concentration slipped for event a moment, the Universe would have been destroyed without him even trying to do so.

Magus then pwned ALL of the UN's energies and turned them back on Quasar.

Reed actually was trying destroy multiple Universes, not just one being.doped

All your speculations...

Bottom line...

An Incomplete IG is shown ON PANEL to be >> UN....

Deal with it. doped

and for all your speculations, you didn't prove shit. I just said galactus was more powerful now than he used to be. You talking about him in the 90's lend credence to what I said. In the 60's he wasn't that strong. Also, sweetie, you forget, Reed was able to turn the LT's energies back on himself. ring a bell. Turning energies back upon something isn't exactly pwing anything. The magus knew very well what would happen to him if the Un hit him. If he were as mighty as you pretend he was, he would have laughed off the UN's blast. Cosmics do that all the time. Especially if your really That omnipotent or near it. Try again. Your logic does NOT compute.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and for all your speculations, you didn't prove shit.

Every word I've stated is backed by panel evidence. Everything you have said is just your opinion.

You can have your opinion, that's fine, but don't tell me I'm wrong, when I am just going by what's been depicted in comics. doped

And also, Reported, for member bashing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I just said galactus was more powerful now than he used to be. You talking about him in the 90's lend credence to what I said.

You said he is more powerful now then he ever was.

This is an incorrect statement. doped

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Turning energies back upon something isn't exactly pwing anything. The magus knew very well what would happen to him if the Un hit him. If he were as mighty as you pretend he was, he would have laughed off the UN's blast. Cosmics do that all the time. Especially if your really That omnipotent or near it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Try again. Your logic does NOT compute.

And who's isn't?

😕

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, I do not have to speculate.

Every word I've stated is backed by panel evidence. Everything you have said is just your opinion.

You can have your opinion, that's fine, but don't tell me I'm wrong, when I am just going by what's been depicted in comics. doped

And also, Reported, for member bashing.

Yes it does.

You said he is more powerful now then he ever was.

This is an incorrect statement. doped

Ummm, Magus pwned ALL of the UN's energies /w/ an Incomplete IG....... Once the IG was in working order, he wasn't worried about Quasar, because...... Well he knew that the IG >> UN. doped

Who's logic is backed by proof?

And who's isn't?

😕

You reported me for member bashing you becuz I said you didn't prove shit? LMAO. Do you know how many times people have said that on here. Get thicker skin if that bothered you. You really haven't proven anything. All you have done is fallen in line with a flawed theory. you cannot say that the Un was operating at Multiversal capacity at all when magus deflected it's energies. and you can't even say the magus pwned the Un when all he did was redirect the energies. Now until you can prove that, you aren't in any position to think your 100% right.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You reported me for member bashing you becuz I said you didn't prove shit? LMAO. Do you know how many times people have said that on here. Get thicker skin if that bothered you.

Mature your debating skills, and people would respect you more.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You really haven't proven anything. All you have done is fallen in line with a flawed theory.

Well then it would be easy for you to counter my argument with panel evidence to the contrary, wouldn't it?

Post away! doped

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you cannot say that the Un was operating at Multiversal capacity at all when magus deflected it's energies. and you can't even say the magus pwned the Un when all he did was redirect the energies.

Magus manipulated ALL of the UN's power, (not just the blast Quasar was going to shoot)....... He manipulated ALL of those energies, and turned them back on Quasar....... TOTAL CONTROL.

By that feat, we can certainly say...

Incomplete IG >> UN. doped

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now until you can prove that, you aren't in any position to think your 100% right.

Originally posted by Galan007
I didn't report you for just that, I reported you because I have been very civil, and you throw back nothing but insults....

Mature your debating skills, and people would respect you more.

Really?

Well then it would be easy for you to counter my argument with panel evidence to the contrary, wouldn't it?

Post away! doped

The UN's potential has never changed, and I challenge you to prove that it has, with panel proof.

Magus manipulated ALL of the UN's power, (not just the blast Quasar was going to shoot)....... He manipulated ALL of those energies, and turned them back on Quasar....... TOTAL CONTROL.

By that feat, we can certainly say...

Incomplete IG >> UN. doped

I'm pretty sure I've proved that numerous times now...... You just refuse to listen. 😕

You have the right to feel how you wish. If I insulted you, I surely have learned it from the Forum. Now it would be unfair to ban me, and not the scores of members who have insulted me wouldn't it?

No one said the UN's potential has changed. You missed the very premise of my argument. The UN was not being used in a multiversal fashion by quasar and no one at the time even knew the Un could erase the multiverse becuz no abraxas type threat had come along. You saying the IG controlled all of the UN's energies holds little weight considering quasar using the Un 20's years ago is a much different circumstance than REed using the UN for an entirely different purpose. Scientist would laugh at this theory becuz in order to make a direct comparison, the IG would have to control the UN being used by the same user or someone who is reeds peer, with the Un being used in the same fashion. you can go off of what you think, but the theory is scientifically flawed and does not stand up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You have the right to feel how you wish. If I insulted you, I surely have learned it from the Forum. Now it would be unfair to ban me, and not the scores of members who have insulted me wouldn't it?

So it is also unfair for you to throw insults at me, just because so other members have pissed you off, isn't it?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No one said the UN's potential has changed.

Remember, Magus controlled ALL of the UN's energies, not just the single blast Quasar was attempting to fire....... Magus controlled ALL of the power contained within the UN.

So if the potential of the UN was the same then as it is now, (which you finally admitted)....... Then the same energies Reed harness from the UN, which destroyed the Multiverse, were the same energies that Magus /w/ an Incomplete IG had TOTAL control over.

See?

IG >> UN

Originally posted by Galan007
Ok, but I haven't insulted you thus far...

So it is also unfair for you to throw insults at me, just because so other members have pissed you off, isn't it?

Ok...

Remember, Magus controlled ALL of the UN's energies, not just the single blast Quasar was attempting to fire....... Magus controlled ALL of the power contained within the UN.

So if the potential of the UN was the same then as it is now, (which you finally admitted)....... Then the same energies Reed harness from the UN, which destroyed the Multiverse, were the same energies that Magus /w/ an Incomplete IG had TOTAL control over.

See?

IG >> UN

NO this does not compute. I do apologize if I insulted you. I get so used to it, i just attack most anyone. My apologies. as far as magus saying he controlled all of the UN"s energies. I take what magus says very lightly. he didnt' even know he wasn't really in control. his cosmic senses weren't even attuned enough to know he was duped. so i doubt he knew how much of the un's energy he deflected back upon the user. Tho he knew if he got hit with the un's power, he would die. this is for certain. or else he would have just shrugged off it's blast.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I do apologize if I insulted you. I get so used to it, i just attack most anyone. My apologies.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
as far as magus saying he controlled all of the UN"s energies. I take what magus says very lightly. he didnt' even know he wasn't really in control. his cosmic senses weren't even attuned enough to know he was duped. so i doubt he knew how much of the un's energy he deflected back upon the user.

Quasar actually fired the UN at Magus...

Magus preceded to control those energies, and redirect them back at Quasar.... That much isn't even questionable.

And as for Magus "not being in control", he had just obtained the IG at this point, and it takes time to adjust to Omnipotence as Warlock put it.

That's why Magus didn't realize he had an incomplete IG..... That's also why the Gauntlet was taken away from him before he became acquainted to Omnipotence.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Tho he knew if he got hit with the un's power, he would die. this is for certain. or else he would have just shrugged off it's blast.

After he obtained it, he was no longer worried, because he knew that he had the superior weapon.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hey man, so long as things stay civil, I have no problem with you. 😎

That's iffy...

Quasar actually fired the UN at Magus...

Magus preceded to control those energies, and redirect them back at Quasar.... That much isn't even questionable.

And as for Magus "not being in control", he had just obtained the IG at this point, and it takes time to adjust to Omnipotence as Warlock put it.

That's why Magus didn't realize he had an incomplete IG..... That's also why the Gauntlet was taken away from him before he became acquainted to Omnipotence.

Magus was worried before he obtained the IG.

After he obtained it, he was no longer worried, because he knew that he had the superior weapon.

The Ig is superior to the UN in many ways. But it is not more powerful. WW is superior to Storm, but Storm can cause far more dmg and at faster rates than WW. UN is more powerful than IG. IG is superior becuz it has finess. The UN is a cannon and the IG is a sniper's rifle as far I'm concerned. And yous till have yet to address the fact that many beings have deflected energies back on more powerful opponents. I.E. The LT and reeds cannon thingy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Ig is superior to the UN in many ways.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UN is more powerful than IG. IG is superior becuz it has finess. The UN is a cannon and the IG is a sniper's rifle as far I'm concerned.

If character A has the IG, and character B has the UN....... Character A will win every single time.

Why?

Because as soon as character B fired the UN, the the IG would simply control those energies, and turn them back upon the user....... TOTAL control.

The IG is the superior weapon by far.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yous till have yet to address the fact that many beings have deflected energies back on more powerful opponents. I.E. The LT and reeds cannon thingy.

WW using her bracelets against Darkseid's OE...... Now that's deflection.

If WW would have controlled the energies of the OE and turned them back at Darkseid with a thought....... That would be closer to what Magus did to Quasar /w/ UN.

Originally posted by Galan007
Good, I'm glad to see your coming around a little bit. 🙂

Think of it like this...

If character A has the IG, and character B has the UN....... Character A will win every single time.

Why?

Because as soon as character B fired the UN, the the IG would simply control those energies, and turn them back upon the user....... TOTAL control.

The IG is the superior weapon by far.

Magus didn't "deflect" the UN's power. He controlled it's energies completely.

WW using her bracelets against Darkseid's OE...... Now that's deflection.

If WW would have controlled the energies of the OE and turned them back at Darkseid with a thought....... That would be closer to what Magus did to Quasar /w/ UN.

OK put it like this, Doctor light, could control every energy that silver surfer threw at him. It's all made of light. Is Dr. light more powerful than silver surfer. Hell no. Same thing. Dr. light would be superior to surfer becuz of his ability, but he wouldn't be any where near as powerful. the IG is superior to the UN becuz the IG has so many powers and uses. Is it more powerful? no.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OK put it like this, Doctor light, could control every energy that silver surfer threw at him. It's all made of light. Is Dr. light more powerful than silver surfer. Hell no. Same thing. Dr. light would be superior to surfer becuz of his ability, but he wouldn't be any where near as powerful. the IG is superior to the UN becuz the IG has so many powers and uses. Is it more powerful? no.

If it wasn't a superior weapon, then it wouldn't have the control over the UN that it did.

Take THOTI for instance...

Even though the IG easily controlled the energy of the UN, I would never say that the IG could control the power of THOTI.

Why?

Because THOTI is simply the more powerful artifact, and is beyond the control of the IG.

Too many reports. And I'm never opposed to closing needless abstract-theory threads that turn into flame wars and scan-supported cockstroking.