Adam Warlock vs Mar-Vell (h2h)

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm actually working on putting together a Mar-Vell respect thread as we speak, but I don't know how long it will be before I finish(if someone else wants to do it, I'll just add what I have to their stuff).

Anyway on this fight, Mar-Vell takes the majority(but it would be a good fight). Who's more skilled could actually go either way, and as bigbran pointed out Mar-Vell could probably amp to match Warlock's strength. What I see giving Mar-Vell the victory, is his cosmic awareness. Unlike guys like Surfer, Mar-Vell used his cosmic awareness often in the middle of battle to help him read his opponent. He was always sensing any vulnerabilities or openings his opponents had, and when the best time to strike or defend was.

Mar-Vell's cosmic awareness will do little to read Warlock. Eon's Cosmic Awareness gives the wielder universal knowledge.

Warlock is outside destiny, inexplicable apart form this universe as Thanos stated, - beyond the reaches of chaos and order.

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
what does cosmic awareness actually do aside from sensing disturbances in the universe?

how does it actually help you in hand to hand?

warlock has gone from brawling against bigger and stronger guys than him to taking over a whole spaceship using just stealth and martial arts...

he may even be superior to gamora...i think... 😮

Originally posted by Ethereal
Mar-Vell's cosmic awareness will do little to read Warlock. Eon's Cosmic Awareness gives the wielder universal knowledge.

Warlock is outside destiny, inexplicable apart form this universe as Thanos stated, - beyond the reaches of chaos and order.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Most characters don't use CA to help them in the midst of battle, however Mar-Vell DID(quite often in fact). He used it to do things like locate openings in his opponents defenses, which maximized the efficiency of his attacks(which is why he was a class 10 who was capable of knocking around class 100+).

cool...

my question though is, can someone who posseses "cosmic awareness" affect someone who is outside the loop of destiny and time?

seeing as how even eternity himself is stumped when it comes to adam's machinations...

Originally posted by darthgoober
But Warlock ISN'T beyond Mar-Vell's type of CA. This was best demonstrated when Genis(Mar-Vell's son) was able to use his CA against the Magus, who shares Warlock's status of being outside of Destiny.

yikes! didnt read this... 😛

how did he use it against magus? was the battle h2h?

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
cool...

my question though is, can someone who posseses "cosmic awareness" affect someone who is outside the loop of destiny and time?

seeing as how even eternity himself is stumped when it comes to adam's machinations...

However, there's nothing to stop him from sensing what exactly Warlock IS doing(which requires no knowledge of possible future events). So he would still know when Warlock had a hole in his defenses RIGHT THEN.

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
yikes! didnt read this... 😛

how did he use it against magus? was the battle h2h?

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1533/captainmarveliii19p10jc9.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8946/captainmarveliii19p11ov1.jpg

So Magus was able to hide himself at first(before Genis thought to use his CA), but once he did it picked him up just fine. Since Mar-Vell would know that he's involved in a h2h fight with Warlock, he'll be using it the entire time.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It wasn't in battle, but Genis WAS able to sense the Magus when he thought to use his CA to find out what was up with the situation.

cool...

but im not really not sure if indeed the magus shares warlock's unique role...

remember that warlock is outside Chaos and Order's influence because he destroyed his own future, hence nothing is written of his tomorrow...

which is also one of the reasons why nebula with the IG could'nt even see him...

so, i am particularly at a loss at what genis did to magus...

maybe they(warlock and magus) dont share the same fate?

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
cool...

but im not really not sure if indeed the magus shares warlock's unique role...

remember that warlock is outside Chaos and Order's influence because he destroyed his own future, hence nothing is written of his tomorrow...

which is also one of the reasons why nebula with the IG could'nt even see him...

so, i am particularly at a loss at what genis did to magus...

maybe they(warlock and magus) dont share the same fate?

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2626/warlockchronicles203rq4.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3383/goddesswarlockre7.jpg
The Magus is just as much a part of Warlock as the Goddess is, therefor he shares in Warlocks being outside of destiny just as she does.

agreed, though it's pretty much ambivalent as to how someone with the IG failed to see warlock, and then we see genis sensing magus...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
agreed, though it's pretty much ambivalent as to how someone with the IG failed to see warlock, and then we see genis sensing magus...

so if they indeed fought hand to hand, and let's say warlock isnt impersonating anybody, how will the "cosmic awareness" come into play...

Warlock. Mar-Vell gets his butt kicked to much IMO.

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
so if they indeed fought hand to hand, and let's say warlock isnt impersonating anybody, how will the "cosmic awareness" come into play...