Is killing Cap Marvel's way of saying the American ideal is dead? · Comic Books

Entity Illuminati Founder

Is killing Cap Marvel's way of saying the American ideal is dead?

It just seems to me all of the stuff in marvel now is all War!

ex: Civil War, World War Hulk, Silent War, and with whats going on with the Atlanteans.

I think it might be their way of protesting the real life war. I was also thinking that maybe their killing Cap might be their way of saying the America we dreamed of when we grew up and when this country was founded is officially dead and may even have been dead for some time. I just really got allot of that form Frontline #11 when Sally said some things to Steve! Truthfully I agree with them almost whole heartedly and its sad to say but the America today is not what it was supposedly meant to be. Its all corporations and no one can convince me this war has anything to really do with democracy/terrorism and not oil. At least IMO!

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bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Entity
It just seems to me all of the stuff in marvel now is all War!
ex: Civil War, World War Hulk, Silent War, and with whats going on with the Atlanteans.
I think it might be their way of protesting the real life war. I was also thinking that maybe their killing Cap might be their way of saying the America we dreamed of when we grew up and when this country was founded is officially dead and may even have been dead for some time. I just really got allot of that form Frontline #11 when Sally said some things to Steve! Truthfully I agree with them almost whole heartedly and its sad to say but the America today is not what it was supposedly meant to be. Its all corporations and no one can convince me this war has anything to really do with democracy/terrorism and not oil. At least IMO!
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I think that Marvel needed a change.
What better way to start then to kill off Captain America.

It brought the company money, and real news stations talking about it.

Entity Illuminati Founder

They workin now?

SpunkySmurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by Entity
They workin now?

No.

Badabing Gym rat

Look at the buzz that killing Capt created. It was money motivated.

dur

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by Badabing
Look at the buzz that killing Capt created. It was money motivated.

Therefore the American ideal of $$$ is alive and well.

grey fox KMC Magik Founder

It was all for shock value , just like Superman.

SpunkySmurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by grey fox
It was all for shock value , just like Superman.

If Cap "refuses to stay dead", or some bs, I'll buy the comic just to burn it.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

I'm disgusted enough with Marvel Earth at this point to boycott it and tell all my friends to boycott everything from it, for the next year or two. I forget who said this in the Civil War Report thread, but I'll say it again. **** punt ftw. Someone needs to slap that ***** upside the head for daring to upbraid the greatest hero on Marvel Earth like that. And after he apologized to the country and admitted, that even though he believed his side was right, that he was wrong to fight for it the way he did. I'm gonna wait for WWH, when they'll hopefully correct this shit, put Stark in a hospital, get rid of Sentry, and have the US govt. apologize to captain america. If they don't do all of the above (not expecting the last two, but Cap needs to be freed at least), I'm boycotting Marvel Earth FOREVER.

Lucid Lui Air Laki Laki

If anything it'll show that the American ideal can't be killed as someone (other than Punisher) will stand up to take on the Cap mantle, or something cringe-worthy along those lines.

Jade Lightning Senior Member

I think most of the reasoning behind it is for the future of Marvel and as someone else said, they needed some change, but I agree with you in that his death stood for a lot more than what it seemed, especially the brutal and un-heroic manner in which he was killed mercilessly. I think it is a bit of a satire on the US government today... Cap represented the people and the people have really become bargaining chips for the democrats and especially the republicans who hold all of the power... He was standing up for the ideals of democracy rather than the Patriot Act of the Marvel Universe.

Alfheim Junior Member

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
If Cap "refuses to stay dead", or some bs, I'll buy the comic just to burn it.

Ok you and me...right here...right now. j/k

Soljer Beware my Power

Steve's gonna come back in World War Hulk and end up being the one to put the Hulk down. 😖hifty:

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by Soljer
Steve's gonna come back in World War Hulk and end up being the one to put the Hulk down. 😖hifty:

❌

He's gonna join Hulk.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

If anything it shows that the American ideal is very alive.
He thrust himself in front of his persecutors to save a life, as his last moment.
RIP for now, until some cosmic event reboots you, Steve.

WrathfulDwarf THE LOOSE CANNON

Nah! The Death of Captain America implies that the writers at Marvel are clueless and tried to salvage that hideous Civil War business. DC tried to pull the same nonsense when they made it appear Uncle Sam died in IC.

If the American Ideal is dead...then there wouldn't be ANY comic books to read and entertain us.

marvelprince Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Nah! The Death of Captain America implies that the writers at Marvel are clueless and tried to salvage that hideous Civil War business. DC tried to pull the same nonsense when they made it appear Uncle Sam died in IC.
If the American Ideal is dead...then there wouldn't be ANY comic books to read and entertain us.

I doubt that since Uncle Sam is nowhere as recognizable or iconic as Captain America

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
If anything it'll show that the American ideal can't be killed as someone (other than Punisher) will stand up to take on the Cap mantle, or something cringe-worthy along those lines.

Then we'll find out there can only be one, true Captain America.

*red gloved hand shoots up from the ground*

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Validus
Then we'll find out there can only be one, true Captain America.
*red gloved hand shoots up from the ground*

Honestly can there be no good way to bring him back 😛

Honestly I hope CA does stay dead if he dies. I'm tired of people coming back. I just hope if they do replace him they do it with the right person.

"V" Senior Member

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Nah! The Death of Captain America implies that the writers at Marvel are clueless and tried to salvage that hideous Civil War business. DC tried to pull the same nonsense when they made it appear Uncle Sam died in IC.
If the American Ideal is dead...then there wouldn't be ANY comic books to read and entertain us.

Bru had Cap's death planned well before CW, Other than the tie-in issues he didn't write anything to do with Civil War.. I thunk.