Parallax and Ion vs. Galactus and Abraxas

Started by Thanos_THOTU7 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
It doesn't really matter much to tell ya the truth T.

That scan doesn't explain what this "Omniverse" is.

Or what it consists of.

Marvel tells you in plain english On Panel and in th bio, a precise explanation of what the [B]Omniverse is:


(excerpt from the Ofiicial Marvel Handbook 2006)

On Panel verification

The Watcher and Her, are searching for Quasar who Quantum Jumped out of the 616 Multiverse into the Multiverse that houses the New Universe.

"He is somewhere Beyond the Mutliverse of Dimensions"

"What's Beyond the Multiverse?"

"Beyond the Multiverse Exists an Omniverse, a Continuum of Multiverses"

Watcher goes on to say it has never been proven.

But let's proceed.

"I refuse to believe you (Quasar) are dead, you must be in the Omniverse"

Quasar returns to the 616 Multiverse

"I know atleast it's the right Multiverse"

In the end, the Marvel Omniverse is confirmed ON PANEL


"You went Outside the Multiverse into the greater Omniverse"

This is the Marvel Omniverse! (thoroughly explained) [/B]


You've got a point, omniverse simply means "all reality" or "all realities" so by omniverse you could mean a simple a couple of universes. As long as they are all that exists.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Toché ...

But BW was supose to answer, I think he had no basis for his statement.
It would be like I said that Phoenix could destroy the Multiverse just because I am a mythomaniac, and suddently GS backs me up with a scan, I know the chanses of the would be like a million to one but still.

You make it sound like I have been wrong about so much, please do list the things I have been wrong about.

You tell me it's time to get a scanner? I'm in college, and if I have money for a scanner, then I would rather save it for books or tuition.

Issue numbers? That is some what hard, when at college and not at home.

So tell me Thanos, since you make it sound like I am usually wrong about so much, do list the things I have lied or been wrong about, not just in this thread, but others.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If they don't have a scanner, they should atleast know the issue and # they are receiving their info from.

Otherwise they're full of it.

😆

MM you act as if you are usually right, but your opinion does not equal truth, IE silver surfer being made into a universe 🙄

Or the HOTU being a multiverse 🙄

So before you go on a 5 page tangent of posting the same thing again and again, which is nothing but your skewed opinion, really do think and try to formulate a coherent, respectful and politely expressed opinion; rather then a high and mighty arrogant opinion which again is nothing but your own opinion.

Originally posted by Board Walker
You make it sound like I have been wrong about so much, please do list the things I have been wrong about.

Seriously I have better things to do than list elses mistakes ...

You tell me it's time to get a scanner? I'm in college, and if I have money for a scanner, then I would rather save it for books or tuition.

If your in collage you should spend your free time on homeworks ... Not in this forum.

Issue numbers? That is some what hard, when at college and not at home.

You live there or what--simply tell us that you got an issue at home and that you'll tell the numbre once you get home.

So tell me Thanos, since you make it sound like I am usually wrong about so much, do list the things I have lied or been wrong about, not just in this thread, but others.

In truth, you usually are wrong.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You've got a point, omniverse simply means "all reality" or "all realities" so by omniverse you could mean a simple a couple of universes. As long as they are all that exists.
If this was the case, he wouldn't have used the word Omniverse...

He would have said Universe, or this reality, or Multiverse.

Instead, he said Omniverse....... Which is the entirety of DC.

I figured some peeps would try and dismiss this statement, but I didn't expect it from you.

Originally posted by Board Walker
MM you act as if you are usually right, but your opinion does not equal truth, IE silver surfer being made into a universe 🙄

Or the HOTU being a multiverse 🙄

So before you go on a 5 page tangent of posting the same thing again and again, which is nothing but your skewed opinion, really do think and try to formulate a coherent, respectful and politely expressed opinion; rather then a high and mighty arrogant opinion which again is nothing but your own [b]opinion. [/B]


It's not like you've read the issues anyways ...
You demands scan's, and not just one but you need people to scan the entire series for you ...
If a site is aproved by Marvel than it is canon, so if it says Multiverse it is a Multiverse.
It's like when Lucifer created his "universe", which actually was a Multiverse.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Seriously I have better things to do than list elses mistakes ...

If your in collage you should spend your free time on homeworks ... Not in this forum.

You live there or what--simply tell us that you got an issue at home and that you'll tell the numbre once you get home.

In truth, you usually are wrong.

I spend my time how I so chose to do so.

In your opinion I am usually wrong.

You need to realize your opinion, or Mr. master's opinion does not dictate what is right or wrong.

Do you know how ridiculous you and Mr. Master, and others, sound when speaking of DC?

Really it is a two way mirror, in your opinion I may be wrong, but does it mean that in fact and truth that I am? No.

Now unless you think you have the ability to dictate what is right and wrong, that your opinion is above all others, then really I think you need to reflective and reevaluate your position in reality.

P.S. Really do list what I have been wrong about, I guarantee it will be purely of your opinionated perception.

Originally posted by Galan007
If this was the case, he wouldn't have used the word Omniverse...

He would have said Universe, or this reality, or Multiverse.

Instead, he said Omniverse....... Which is the entirety of DC.

I figured some peeps would try and dismiss this statement, but I didn't expect it from you.


In Latin Omni- means All and verse-, reality.
I don't try and dissmiss it, it just sound a bit odd, you have any other scans of them mentioning the Omniverse?

Originally posted by Galan007
However, that matters not.

The point I was proving is that DC does in fact have an Omniverse..

I understand that, but what does this Omniverse consist of?

Or this the only scan or issue that you can find as proof?

It doesn't explain anything, it's just a term in this case.

This "Omniverse" can literally mean, ALL the DC Universes, nothing more,

which can lead to, ALL the DC Universes in it's Multiverse.

Unless you can provide proof, that DC is more than a Multiverse,

it's still a Multiverse to me, that was termed an "Omniverse" by these "Scientist"

Yet I posted scans from much more qualified individuals concerning the DC Reality, and it was dismissed with,

"that's just an Imp in another Reality, not in the 5th Dimension"

Funny, when the DC Reality was being explained by again, Qualafied characters:

Hypertime

"Hypertime

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL Reality

... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee,

is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime)

an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

To me, this is DC, a full and thorough description of it's Reality.

Your scan is just a word, without meaning, except for it's basic meaning,

Omni = ALL.

Omniverse which would then = ALL Universes.

Not the same as Marvel, Omniverse = ALL Megaverses & Multiverses.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
It's not like you've read the issues anyways ...
You demands scan's, and not just one but you need people to scan the entire series for you ...
If a site is aproved by Marvel than it is canon, so if it says Multiverse it is a Multiverse.
It's like when Lucifer created his "universe", which actually was a Multiverse.

😄 I posted scans, which stated it was a universe, I posted the scans to the updated marvel hand book, bio of the LT, which stated it was a vast power source (no where does it say TOAA), and that it was one universe.

You tend to only remember what you want to remember.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I understand that, but what does this Omniverse consist of?

Or this the only scan or issue that you can find as proof?

It doesn't explain anything, it's just a term in this case.

This "Omniverse" can literally mean, ALL the DC Universes, nothing more,

which can lead to, ALL the DC Universes in it's Multiverse.

Unless you can provide proof, that DC is more than a Multiverse,

it's still a Multiverse to me, that was termed an "Omniverse" by these "Scientist"

Yet I posted scans from much more qualified individuals concerning the DC Reality, and it was dismissed with,

"that's just an Imp in another Reality, not in the 5th Dimension"

Funny, when the DC Reality was being explained by again, Qualafied characters:

[B]Hypertime

"Hypertime

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL Reality

... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee,

is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime)

an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

To me, this is DC, a full and thorough description of it's Reality.

Your scan is just a word, without meaning, except for it's basic meaning,

Omni = ALL.

Omniverse which would then = ALL Universes.

Not the same as Marvel, Omniverse = ALL Megaverses & Multiverses. [/B]

Unless we can find proof that DC is more then a multiverse, then it is not?

Its on panel that is a omniverse, nor is it up to you to dictate what a omniverse is.

I find it comical, how vastly you view omniverse in DC and in Marvel, and formulate a definition for each which best fits your own personal opinion.

DC has an omniverse, the main DC verse is the omniverse. If you actually read DC moderately you would know this.

So instead of knocking DC, or stating how DC has lost your almight and great respect, go read the actual comics, so you can better understand and comprehend the mechanics of DC; they are not the same as Marvel.

Originally posted by Board Walker
MM you act as if you are usually right, but your opinion does not equal truth, IE silver surfer being made into a universe

Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Or the HOTU being a multiverse

Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

Originally posted by Board Walker
So before you go on a 5 page tangent of posting the same thing again and again, which is nothing but your skewed opinion,

As opposed to your 20 pages of Bull shit ...

I get what you mean.

Originally posted by Board Walker
really do think and try to formulate a coherent, respectful and politely expressed opinion; rather then a high and mighty arrogant opinion which again is nothing but your own [b]opinion. [/B]

😆

Get proof to back up your claims,

or go away with this sanctimonious Bull shit ...

Originally posted by Board Walker
Unless we can find proof that DC is more then a multiverse, then it is not?

Its on panel that is a omniverse, nor is it up to you to dictate what a omniverse is.

I find it comical, how vastly you view omniverse in DC and in Marvel, and formulate a definition for each which best fits your own personal [b]opinion.

DC has an omniverse, the main DC verse is the omniverse. If you actually read DC moderately you would know this.

So instead of knocking DC, or stating how DC has lost your almight and great respect, go read the actual comics, so you can better understand and comprehend the mechanics of DC; they are not the same as Marvel. [/B]

Hypertime

"Hypertime

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL Reality

... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee,

is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime)

an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

whistling

Originally posted by Mr Master
Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

As opposed to your 20 pages of Bull shit ...

I get what you mean.

😆

Get proof to back up your claims,

or go away with this sanctimonious Bull shit ...

Again you believe you were right about Silver Surfer being made into a universe? Please do show me on panel where it states universe, just show one scan from the comic where SS meets LT, where it says universe.

You can't can you?

Before telling some one else to back up their claims, you should first do so yourself.

Posting irrelevant scans which are interpreted solely by your opinion, is not proof.

Really get over yourself mm.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yet I posted scans from much more qualified individuals concerning the DC Reality, and it was dismissed with,

"that's just an Imp in another Reality, not in the 5th Dimension"

It was "dismissed" with that statement because it didn't show the 5th dimension itself, it just showed a single 5D Imp....... which is definatley not the same thing.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your scan is just a word, without meaning, except for it's basic meaning,

Omni = ALL.

Omniverse which would then = ALL Universes.

Ok, ALL Universes in DC would be the exact same thing as ALL Multiverses in DC, wouldn't it. 😉

it equals the same ammount.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not the same as Marvel, Omniverse = ALL Megaverses & Multiverses.
Did I ever once compare Marvel and DC's Omniverse? ❌

I simply proved the existance of an Omniverse in DC...... Nothing more.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Again you believe you were right about Silver Surfer being made into a universe? Please do show me on panel where it states universe, just show one scan from the comic where SS meets LT, where it says [b]universe.

You can't can you? [/B]

"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"

GODHOOD is not Universal Awareness simple one,

otherwise Captain Marvel and all his successors are "GODS"

Quasar was a "GOD"

and anyone else that can tap Universal Consciousness if a "GOD"

hysterical

Originally posted by Board Walker
Posting irrelevant scans which are interpreted solely by your opinion, is not proof.
Really get over yourself mm.

Meaningless gibberish.

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"

GODHOOD is not Universal Awareness simple one,

otherwise Captain Marvel and all his successors are "GODS"

Quasar was a "GOD"

and anyone else that can tap Universal Consciousness if a "GOD"

hysterical

Meaningless gibberish. [/B]

Again you interpret the scan purely as you chose to do so, yet no where in that entire comic, is the word universe mentioned once.

Did I say universal awareness? No I said vast cosmic awareness, in akin to Photon, omniversal awareness.

I'm still waiting, provide one scan showing the word universe from that comic.

Originally posted by Galan007
It was "dismissed" with that statement because it didn't show the 5th dimension itself, it just showed a single 5D Imp....... which is definatley not the same thing.

Well I dismiss your scan then, cause to me it's just a term,

as in ALL the DC Universes.

Not an Omniverse like Marvel that contains countless Multiverses.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ok, ALL Universes in DC would be the exact same thing as ALL Multiverses in DC, wouldn't it. 😉

it equals the same ammount.

Not in the least 🙂

A Multiverse can contain ALL of DC's Universes.

The Marvel Omniverse is FAR greater in scale.

Originally posted by Galan007
Did I ever once compare Marvel and DC's Omniverse?

I simply proved the existance of an Omniverse in DC...... Nothing more.

Again,

what does this "Omniverse" consist of?

If you don't have that description, (like the one I posted, On Panel & Bio)

then we're still back at DC has a Multiverse (ALL it's Universes)

which can be termed Omniverse, since it means ALL Universes.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Again you interpret the scan purely as you chose to do so, yet no where in that entire comic, is the word universe mentioned once.

Did I say universal awareness? No I said vast cosmic awareness, in akin to Photon, omniversal awareness.

I'm still waiting, provide [b]one scan showing the word universe from that comic. [/B]


Hey BW let me ask you something. When Flash saved all of those people by transporting them out of the city before that bomb went off, was he going near light speed like was stated ON PANEL, or was he going many times the speed of light(which is what it would have to be to work out mathematically)?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not in the least 🙂

A Multiverse can contain ALL of DC's Universes.

The Marvel Omniverse is FAR greater in scale.

We know the DCU as a whole consists of multiple Multiverses, (i.e. Elseworlds and Vertigo), to name a few....

So yes, ALL Universes in DC would still equal an Omniverse

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,

what does this "Omniverse" consist of?

If you don't have that description, (like the one I posted, On Panel & Bio)

then we're still back at DC has a Multiverse (ALL it's Universes)

Of course you think this...

But that's fine, I'm not going to argue over this for numerous pages.

DC consists of multiple Multiverses = Omniverse = ALL Universes