Women and Religion

Started by Lord Urizen3 pages

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Nellinator, I must say that I have to disagree with you on your perception of women's importance in the bible. Whenever people want to bring out the importance of women in the bible, they always say Deborah and Esther and/or Ruth. Pretty much because there are really no other choices. Yes, Esther and Ruth have their own books, but the bible was set in a patriarchal society... Abraham said that Sarah was his sister at one point so that he wouldn't be murdered. I'm pretty sure she had no say in that decision. And Jacob being deceived, thinking he was going to marry Rachel when really he was marrying Leah? I'm pretty sure that the women, if they could have, would have spoken up about that.

There were no women disciples, no women prophets. One woman judge that we know about. Whoopee. It's very easy to point to those women and say, "Well they're there, so it must be easy for women to get to those positions." But they were the exceptions to the rule.

Also - Adam and Eve. Eve has been the scapegoat for centuries in churches to keep women suppressed. There are no women clergy in the Catholic Church because women are supposedly tainted with "original sin." Women "fell for it" when Eve took the Apple from the snake. More Evangelical Protestant churches also believe that the woman is "weaker," and should submit to the man. I recently attended a wedding of evangelical persuasion where the woman was instructed to "submit to her husband..."

Yikes.

Silence WOMAN ! God does NOT give you permission to SPEAK !

"let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for woman to speak in the church."

1Corinthians 14:34-35

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your logic is flawed. 🙄
Not really. We won, they lost. We managed to be the dominant sex for over 2000 years. 😄

😆 Fail.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Silence WOMAN ! God does NOT give you permission to SPEAK !

[b]"let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for woman to speak in the church."

1Corinthians 14:34-35 [/B]

Shame this woman thinks the bible is chock full of errors, historical references, translational errors, idioms, anachronisms, and the like, then, isn't it?

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Shame this woman thinks the bible is chock full of errors, historical references, translational errors, idioms, anachronisms, and the like, then, isn't it?
Urizen is joking; he does this all the time.

Unless he's actually quite serious...

Originally posted by Alliance
Unless he's actually quite serious...
I doubt he knows of the word.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Shame this woman thinks the bible is chock full of errors, historical references, translational errors, idioms, anachronisms, and the like, then, isn't it?

DID I GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO SPEAK WOMAN ?

HOW DARE YOU CONTENT THE ARGUMENT OF A MAN ! YOU AND YOUR KIND HAVE CAUSED THE DOWNFALL OF MANKIND !

IT IS NOT YOUR DUTY TO QUESTION OR THINK ! YOU ARE SIMPLY HERE TO SERVE MAN, COOK OUR DINNERS AND GIVE BIRTH !

Originally posted by lord xyz
I doubt he knows of the word.

What word ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What word ?
Serious.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Serious.

What does that mean ?

lord xyz
Urizen is joking; he does this all the time.

Yes I know he's joking; my sense of humor is fairly sarcastic and cynical as well. 😄

Lord Urzien
DID I GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO SPEAK WOMAN ?

HOW DARE YOU CONTENT THE ARGUMENT OF A MAN ! YOU AND YOUR KIND HAVE CAUSED THE DOWNFALL OF MANKIND !

IT IS NOT YOUR DUTY TO QUESTION OR THINK ! YOU ARE SIMPLY HERE TO SERVE MAN, COOK OUR DINNERS AND GIVE BIRTH !

Hmmmmmmm. *dumps burnt spaghetti on Lord Urzien's lap*

Yes. Very good then.

lord xyz
Serious

Eh?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
[b]DID I GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO SPEAK WOMAN ?

HOW DARE YOU CONTENT THE ARGUMENT OF A MAN ! YOU AND YOUR KIND HAVE CAUSED THE DOWNFALL OF MANKIND !

IT IS NOT YOUR DUTY TO QUESTION OR THINK ! YOU ARE SIMPLY HERE TO SERVE MAN, COOK OUR DINNERS AND GIVE BIRTH ! [/B]

😕

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
That isn't true.

As far as monotheism goes, Zoroastrianism was the only monotheic religion which considered male and female to be equal.

All other did the opposite. Islam being one of them.

ms. bitchiness, you don't really know what you are talking about half the time here i'm afraid. 😬

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Yes I know he's joking; my sense of humor is fairly sarcastic and cynical as well. 😄
Awesome! w00t

I do that aswell. Damn, you're good. sly