Amazo vs Doomsday

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
No quite my friend, but I'm quite impressed you deciphered that much from that source. William Paley used the idea of evolution to prove the existence of God. He states that Evolution is Gods tool in developing the universe.

Next question, Do you believe that the Presence (God) created the D.C. universe ?

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No. I am of the opinion that the Presence is the sum total of DC's reality.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why do people try to use concepts devoloped in the real world, to try and make an argument where comic books are concerned?

I haven't the foggiest.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why do people try to use concepts devoloped in the real world, to try and make an argument where comic books are concerned?

Because Comic writers do, for exampl this one is taken from the Christian Juedo perspective of God.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No. I am of the opinion that the Presence is the sum total of DC's reality.

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Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Who to say there isn't. As it was stated through out Hunter prey and the Doomsday Annual, Doomsday was a force of Nature who had the power of evolution on his side. Just because AMAZO can copy his cells is there anyway to vouch that he would be a living embodiment of Evolution that works beyond the subatomic level IN COMICS. Just a theory though, please dont go mental at me, if you dont agree. And even if he does coppy it, the two will continue evolving until the end of time. Leading to a stalemate.
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That was exactly my point. Comics or not, even if DD could evolve "beyond" Amazo in any way, How can you argue that Amazo couldnt match that evolution too.

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Originally posted by horrorwolf
That was exactly my point. Comics or not, even if DD could evolve "beyond" Amazo in any way, How can you argue that Amazo couldnt match that evolution too.

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I cant, but I do have a theory. See the last three pages to see what that is. 🙂

Well look at it this way.

Both adapt.

Doomsday adaption is reactionary.
Amazo's is at will and everpresent.
As a result, Amazon has the advantage in a fight because any power advantages DD has will be absorbed by Amazo, and Amazo has others too that DD doesn't.

DD <<< Amazo. Amazo will always be a step ahead. DD can't level the playing ground. ever.

Add to that the intelligence/knowlege advantage of Amazo and this should be a wash.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Because Comic writers do, for exampl this one is taken from the Christian Juedo perspective of God.

But comics in no way follow real-world laws.

This is why comics can't be broken down by "real-world theories"....... It just doesn't work that way.

Originally posted by Galan007
I understand that comic writers do sometimes use real-world concepts/facts to base their material off of...

But comics in no way follow real-world laws.

This is why comics can't be broken down by "real-world theories"....... It just doesn't work that way.

I'm sorry if this sounds a bit offensive but you seem like a bit of a Bigot saying this ....

'This is why comics can't be broken down by "real-world theories"....... It just doesn't work that way.'

Anyway, do you not think the presence had a role in the Evolution of the D.C. universe. 🙂

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
I'm sorry if this sounds a bit offensive but you seem like a bit of a Bigot saying this ....

'This is why comics can't be broken down by "real-world theories"....... It just doesn't work that way.'

Anyway, do you not think the presence had a role in the Evolution of the D.C. universe. 🙂

Because I say it's faulty logic to go by real-world concepts over what the character actually did on panel?

If I'm a "bigot" for that, then I'll take it as a compliment. 🙂

And which Presence are you talking about?

The one in comics, or the real-world "God"?

Originally posted by Galan007
Bigot?

Because I say it's faulty logic to go by real-world concepts over what the character actually did on panel?

If I'm a "bigot" for that, then I'll take it as a compliment. 🙂

And which Presence are you talking about?

The one in comics, or the real-world "God"?

Well this is a comicbook forum. 😄

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Well this is a comicbook forum. 😄

I had to ask though, because you just brought up ideas from the real-world, so I couldn't be sure. 😄

Originally posted by Galan007
Exactly!

I had to ask though, because you just brought up ideas from the real-world, so I couldn't be sure. 😄

Originally posted by Donkey Punch

Anyway, do you not think the presence had a role in the Evolution of the D.C. universe. 🙂

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Anyway, do you not think the presence had a role in the Evolution of the D.C. universe. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Since the Presence is supposed to be the sum total of ALL DC comics, just like TOAA is supposed to be the sum total of ALL Marvel comics....... Sure.

So you agree that evolution is a transecdual force ? 🙂

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
So you agree that evolution is a transecdual force ? 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Meaning?

Meaning that Doomsday power exists beyond reality, and cannot be copied. As i said its just a theory, no one has to except it. 🙂

But i don't think its as stupid as someone stated earlier. Just because I'm well read and I apply logic to create a hypotenuse, doesn't mean I'm stupid. 🙂

Are some people confusing JLA Amazo and JLU Amazo?

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Meaning that Doomsday power exists beyond reality, and cannot be copied. As i said its just a theory, no one has to except it. 🙂

But i don't think its as stupid as someone stated earlier. Just because I'm well read and I apply logic to create a hypotenuse, doesn't mean I'm stupid. 🙂

Keep in mind we are debating comic book characters.

Even if a character can "transcend reality", (which I have never seen DD do), it doesn't necessarily make them immune to absorption in comics.

Again, it's not a stupid theory....... It's just a real-world theory.

Real-world concepts, and comic books seldom go hand in hand.

Originally posted by Juntai
Are some people confusing JLA Amazo and JLU Amazo?

Why do you ask?

Originally posted by Galan007

Real-world concepts, and comic books seldom go hand in hand.

All concepts are derived from the real world in some shape or form. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think anyone has used JLU Amazo's feats in place of JLA Amazo's feats.

Why do you ask?

Why would he suddenly be able to take DD's adaption power, when DD is not a member of the Justice League?