Originally posted by Mindship
Seems we're all kind of saying the same thing (more or less), if approaching it from different angles.What might we agree, then, would be the best definition of Infinity?
(side question, in the effort to get back to topic: Would Doomsday's evolving power be considered infinite?)
This is why I agree that If DD has infinite potential, and Amazo has full power to absorb DD's abilities....that Amazo would always be the winner at any given point in time, because he has everything DD has and more, in advance each time DD gets defeated...starting his next evolution.
Originally posted by MindshipThese definitions seem to fit best IMO...
What might we agree, then, would be the best definition of Infinity?
Infinite:
1.) Having no boundaries or limits.
2.) Immeasurably great or large; boundless: infinite patience; a discovery of infinite importance.
Mathematics:
1.) Existing beyond or being greater than any arbitrarily large value.
2.) Unlimited in spatial extent: a line of infinite length.
Originally posted by Mindship
(side question, in the effort to get back to topic: Would Doomsday's evolving power be considered infinite?)
Who knows if DD's abilities are truly infinite?
500 quintillion years of evolving later, those abilities might burn out, (which means they weren't truly infinite to begin with).
IMO it's impossible to answer that question.
But would DD's adaptive "reflex" help him realistically defeat Amazo's superior abilities? ❌
Gah, you're thinking too simply, Galan.
I know you are into the Marvel cosmic hierarchy - think of it like multiverses.
Each Universe is infinite in and of itself.
However, a single multiverse comprises an infinite number of universes.
The fact that something larger exists, does not make the infinity of the Universe any smaller, though.
Same way the set of real prime numbers is infinite, and PART of the set of real numbers, but still less than the latter.
Originally posted by Galan007
A huge mistake people make is trying to put a number on the concept of infinity.It just doesn't work that way.
Precisely. The concept of Numbers, values and measure dont allow for infinity to exist.
Because trying to say X=Infinity instantly ceases it(infinity) to be infinite anymore. You see, in every system of value or measure, when applying to infinity...you then have the ability to make something larger that the value you try to assign to infinity.
we do not have a value that can be placed on Infinity that doesnt destry its concept by default.
Originally posted by SoljerI wasn't refering to Marvel comics.
Gah, you're thinking too simply, Galan.I know you are into the Marvel cosmic hierarchy - think of it like multiverses.
Each Universe is infinite in and of itself.
However, a single multiverse comprises an infinite number of universes.
The fact that something larger exists, does not make the infinity of the Universe any smaller, though.
Same way the set of real prime numbers is infinite, and PART of the set of real numbers, but still less than the latter.
I was refering to the true concept of infinity, as we in the real-world know it.
And as far as we know, it is an impossibility for infinity #1, to be larger than infinity #2.
If it was, then the smaller "variable" wouldn't have been truly infinite to begin with.
Sure more than one infinity may exist, but that's not what my point is.
Originally posted by Galan007
Who knows if DD's abilities are truly infinite?
500 quintillion years of evolving later, those abilities might burn out,
Originally posted by Galan007
These definitions seem to fit best IMO...Infinite:
1.) Having no boundaries or limits.
2.) Immeasurably great or large; boundless: infinite patience; a discovery of infinite importance.Mathematics:
1.) Existing beyond or being greater than any arbitrarily large value.
2.) Unlimited in spatial extent: a line of infinite length.srug
clapping We have a winner
Originally posted by Galan007
Which is also why infinity is characterized by a symbol, instead of a number. 🙂
Exactly! Although from a symantic poit of view it could be argued all numbers are represented by symbols. It could also be argued the symbolism of both 0 and infinity defines the numbers between these two symbols and gives the context etc......
😄
-FO!!
This is one of the problems with creating these DD and Amazo type characters. Weaknesses are necessary to create interesting fights. It pulls out heroism and skill from the character. Comics are becoming guilty of losing interesting characters in this way.
These all powerful (Infinite) type characters are weak in that they produce uninteresting fights, require little skill, and are somewhat boring.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
This is one of the problems with creating these DD and Amazo type characters. Weaknesses are necessary to create interesting fights. It pulls out heroism and skill from the character. Comics are becoming guilty of losing interesting characters in this way.These all powerful (Infinite) type characters are weak in that they produce uninteresting fights, require little skill, and are somewhat boring.
Originally posted by Flame On!!Absolutely.
Exactly! Although from a symantic poit of view it could be argued all numbers are represented by symbols. It could also be argued the symbolism of both 0 and infinity defines the numbers between these two symbols and gives the context etc......😄
-FO!!
But this still doesn't change the fact that the concept of infinity cannot under any circumstances, be characterized numerically.
If it could, then the concept of infinity simply would not exist.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosReed did.
Marvel hasn't had its entire Multiverse erased by a character though.
And depending on your point of view, Thanos did too.
My main point was that Marvel simply has many more battles dealing with high end cosmic type characters.
Honestly it can be boring occasionally IMO.